In this episode of the Stuff About Money podcast, Erik Garcia, CFP®, welcomes back longtime guest and college funding expert John Hupalo from MyCollegeCorner.com. As Erik navigates the emotional rollercoaster of planning for his own child’s college costs, he brings listeners along for a candid conversation about the realities of paying for school when savings and cash flow aren’t enough. From the tension between dreams and debt to that Rodrigue Blue Dog artwork hanging behind John in New York, this episode blends practical advice with real-world emotion. Erik and John dive deep into the differences between federal Parent PLUS loans and private student loans—unpacking the risks, benefits, repayment structures, and emotional consequences of each. They also share smart strategies for comparing options, planning payments, and managing expectations. Whether you’re a parent feeling overwhelmed or a financial professional advising clients, this conversation is packed with insight. If you enjoy the episode, follow the show and share it with someone navigating the same road. Episode Highlights: Erik opens up about the emotional and financial challenges of navigating college costs as both a financial advisor and a parent. (01:19) John explains the three ways families can pay for college: saving, cash-flowing, or borrowing—emphasizing this discussion focuses on borrowing options beyond federal student loans. (02:28) Erik and John discuss the potential dangers of Parent PLUS loans and explain why parents must understand the loan structure and long-term implications before committing. (09:30) John shares how private loans differ from Parent PLUS loans, including credit-based underwriting, variable rates, and the absence of origination fees. (17:01) Erik encourages “practicing the payment” as a proactive strategy—making mock loan payments in advance to test affordability before borrowing. (36:29) John suggests reducing market risk by shifting 529 funds to conservative options in advance of college payments. (38:01) They stress the value of planning for contingencies, including hidden risks like a student withdrawing mid-semester, and mention TuitionGuard as a resource to explore. (39:44) Key Quotes: “You just got to really be careful how far you're willing to reach for your, your students' dreams.” - John Hupalo “This is the time to be realistic and throughout the optimism, throughout the pessimism, and get the family together and talk about what can actually happen.” - John Hupalo Resources Mentioned: John Hupalo Invite Education MyCollegeCorner.com Erik Garcia, CFP®, BFA Xavier Angel, CFP®, ChFC, CLTC Plan Wisely Wealth Advisors

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