In 2025, Kevin Scott bet that the agentic web would be the next big thing in AI.The Microsoft CTO argued that for agents to be genuinely useful, they'd need to be able to take action on our behalf—which would mean giving them access to the same sprawl of tools, data, and systems that make up the internet. Today, that bet is starting to pay off, as the foundational infrastructure for the agentic web is now being built.On this week's AI & I, Dan Shipper revisits his conversation with Kevin. They discuss Microsoft's role in the agentic web, why openness doesn't have to come at the expense of security, and why programmers should stay curious about new tools rather than resist them on principle.If you found this episode interesting, please like, subscribe, comment, and share!To hear more from Dan Shipper:Subscribe to Every: https://every.to/subscribeFollow him on X: https://twitter.com/danshipperGo to https://attio.com/every and get 15% off your first year.Timestamps: 0:00 Start1:44 Introduction2:49 The race to close the "capability overhang"4:31 How agents will evolve into practical, useful tools6:48 The role Kevin sees Microsoft playing in the agent ecosystem12:05 How robust security measures can coexist with open ecosystems15:39 Kevin's philosophy on being a craftsman in the age of agents20:52 How the landscape of software development agents will evolve25:33 The future of agentic workflowsLinks to resources mentioned in the episode:Kevin Scott on X: https://twitter.com/kevin_scottModel Context Protocol (MCP): https://modelcontextprotocol.ioNLWeb: https://github.com/microsoft/NLWebGitHub Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot

Ask this episode

“What did the council decide on item 42?” — answered with the speaker and the moment.

Transcript

Related