AI: Voice or Victim?
What Most Companies Get Wrong About AI: Angela Liu & Tom Simon Break It Down
19 Nov 2025
AI is reshaping every job, every industry, and every leadership team — but most organizations still don’t know how to adopt it without causing chaos. In this episode, we sit down with Angela Liu (Founder & CEO, Ikaru Consulting) and Tom Simon (Growth Architect, Walk West) to cut through the noise and get real about what AI adoption looks like inside actual companies.We get into the hard parts — the human resistance, the fear, the bad messaging from leadership, and the pressure to “just be curious” without any real training. Angela breaks down why protecting human dignity matters more than ever, and Tom calls out the ethical landmines leaders keep stepping on when they blame layoffs on AI.If you're leading teams, navigating digital transformation, or trying to get your workforce future-ready, this conversation gives you a clearer path: what to prioritize, what to avoid, and how to build a culture that actually learns together instead of bracing for impact.CHAPTERS00:00 — Why human dignity still matters in the AI era03:12 — What Angela learned at the AI Forward Conference07:20 — Diversity, representation, and who’s missing from the room10:05 — The environmental cost of AI no one talks about14:30 — Small models, energy limits & the future of training17:03 — Why leaders keep getting AI adoption wrong20:12 — How culture shapes success (or failure)25:45 — The messy reality of layoffs, scapegoating & ethics28:50 — What an “AI-ready” workforce really looks like31:22 — How Walk West built massive AI adoption internally35:40 — Angela’s personal workflow with Claude42:55 — The part nobody wants to admit: technology vs. humans47:00 — Last Chat: what they’re actually using AI for48:50 — Closing thoughts: What leaders must do now👉 Don’t forget to subscribe, leave a review, and share this episode with someone navigating the AI revolution.Subscribe to AI: Voice or Victim for more conversations that move you from AI anxious to AI curious. Hosted by Erica Rooney and Greg Boone aka AISerious™, we're helping people and organizations embrace AI ethically, strategically, and with humanity at the center.Follow us and join the movement to shape the future — before it shapes us.🔗 Follow us and dive deeper:On the web: https://voiceorvictim.com/
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