All in the Mind 10th Anniversary Special 3: Getting Personal
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What is the purpose of the 10‑year anniversary special of All in the Mind?
And welcome to All In The Mind on ABC Radio National Summer. And it is the thick of the silly season. Natasha Mitchell with you. Continuing the celebrations of the show's 10th birthday. It's hard to believe, isn't it? And we're digging into our deep archives for your gratification. Hello, I'm Natasha Mitchell, and what better way to start the new year than with a new program? We've called it All in the Mind, and it'll explore the quirks of everyday human behavior. So you can look forward to themes like artificial intelligence and dreaming, consciousness, our mental health, and plenty of other mysteries of the brain and the mind. Don't I sound too back there in 2002? The past decade has really seen the rise of what Harvard historian of science Anne Harrington once described to me as the neuro-narrative, people's own stories of their own broken brains, of mental illness, of survival, of recovery.
So today we're getting a little bit personal, as we often have on the show. And one of the first interviews I recorded back in 2002 was with this fellow.
I am ElectroBoy, and the name has really stuck. After my first electroshock treatment in New York, I woke up. I had no idea where I was. I had no idea what had happened. And a nurse came up to me, and she said, you're at Gracie Square Hospital in New York City, and you've just had electroshock therapy. And I was very surprised. I had no idea. And she said, come with me, ElectroBoy. So she named me.
Andy, you have called your book Electro Boy a memoir of mania. But
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times I wonder when I was reading this, if it was really just a memoir of classic 1980s hedonism, sex, drugs, celebrity and more sex.
Well, I mean, I think you have to understand that the classic symptoms of manic depression are very similar to that kind of behavior that you just mentioned. Overspending, risky behavior, hypersexuality, indulgence in drugs and alcohol, and they're very common. I'd say probably that 95% of all manic depressives share those symptoms. At some level or another, I mean, The 60-year-old manic depressive woman who lives outside London, who works as a secretary, might be spending her $350 a week paycheck and spending it on a big shopping spree. I was indulging in just about everything. I was going on tremendous shopping sprees. I was buying clothing. I was buying artwork. I was traveling around the world. I was flying to Japan.
I was flying to Paris. And I was also doing some pretty good things with my money too. Financing a documentary film about homelessness in New York. I was giving away money. It didn't matter. I just had to keep the money moving. In fact, when I read the book – and I've only read the book once – as have my parents, I was kind of shocked about what this character, Electro Boy, was going through. I mean, I couldn't imagine that he was working at Giorgio Armani and pimping for executives. I couldn't believe he was dancing in seedy Times Square bars. I just was shocked by the drug intake. I was shocked by the recklessness. Mania is about desperately seeking to live life at a more passionate level, taking second and sometimes third helpings on food, alcohol, drugs, sex, and money, trying to live a whole life in one day, and life appears in front of you on an oversized movie screen.
I suppose that would make me the director of my own insanity. Pure mania is as close to death as I think I have ever come. When I'm manic, my senses are so heightened, I'm so awake and alert, that my eyelashes fluttering on the pillow sound like thunder.
Andy Berman with that incredible image and his book is called Electro Boy. He's since become a consultant supporting others with mental illness and stigma is a force we've always reckoned with and pulled apart here on All In The Mind. Another interview I've never forgotten was with Sandy Jeffs who found a way to turn the tables on her own experience of mental illness. through humour and poetry. She joined me in 2002 in All In The Mind edition number two.
People must think I'm crazy. Being the mad woman, I'm also a lunatic, a maddie, a mental case, a bedlamite, a screwball, a nut, a loon, a looning, a madcap, a mad dog, a psychopath, a maniac, an hysteric, a psychotic, a manic-depressive, a megalomaniac, a pyromaniac, a kleptomaniac, a crackpot, an eccentric, an oddity.
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