Antonio Gracias: DOGE updates, Voter fraud arrests, Finding 'Big Balls' | All-In Live from Miami

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What are the latest updates on DOGE?

So if Twitter was like the JV league, this is like the NBA. It's the most complex thing I've ever seen.
David Sacks 0:13
How is he able to find big balls? Where do they show up? Do they just apply out of the blue? I mean, where do these guys come from? You found some people who were illegal immigrants who registered to vote?
Yes, this is actually true. Every vote that is cast illegally in America nullifies the vote of an American citizen.
David Sacks 0:30
So Antonio, we know you're very busy because you decided, like a couple of our other friends, to take a second job working in our government for 100 or so days. You can give him a round of applause for that. You know, Trump is a unique individual in all the world. There's maybe polarizing in some ways, but one thing that's not polarizing is Doge. I think everybody wants to see waste, fraud, and abuse and controlled spending in government. Maybe there's some questions about how fast it's going, but we all know you and Elon like to go, you know, at a brisk pace. You laid back and you joined a little later in the process. Like a stat, you joined maybe what, 15, 20 days ago?
I've been there for eight weeks.
David Sacks 1:18
Eight weeks. Okay. So it's been like, yeah, 60 days. And you went public with it maybe a couple of weeks ago.
Yeah. I was in Woodlawn, Maryland for the first four weeks. So you didn't know I was there.

How does Elon Musk attract talent for DOGE?

David Sacks 1:26
Yes, stealth. So how bad is it? How messed up is our government? How insane are the processes? You're a process guy. We both worked on the Twitter acquisition and the transfer there and did all the zero-based budgeting. I mean, maybe compare and contrast it to that, which was maybe one of the most horrific corporate entities I've ever seen in my life and how that was being run.
It was tough. Oh, let me start by thanking you guys. Thank you for having me. I really appreciate it. It's great to be down here and see everybody. And let me also say that it's an honor to serve America. Like, whatever I am doing, I am grateful to be able to do it. I'm grateful to my partners for allowing me to do it and my clients for supporting it. And it truly is an honor to be there. There's many great people in the government trying to help. So let me just start with that. Okay. Yeah, please. Yeah.
David Sacks 2:14
This is sacrifice, right? You're taking time out of your day job.
It's definitely sacrifice, but it really, I feel very grateful that I have the capacity and 30 years of training in lead operations that I can be useful. You know, that feels very, I feel gratitude. Yeah. How bad is it? So if Twitter was like the JV league, this is like the NBA. It's the most complex thing I've ever seen. I have in our office in DC, I have a, I've mapped now as an example, the entire system of basically from the border to the benefits programs. It's about a 40-foot board, and it looks like a Basquiat. I mean, it's an incredible, like, spaghetti-gram of stuff. And, yeah, I've never seen anything so complex in my life.

What are the findings on voter fraud in the US?

So the answer to your question is it's worse than I thought, much, much worse than what we saw at Twitter Now X. And America, Americans, and all of you, we deserve better.
David Sacks 3:11
Okay. If we were to... And I'm sure Shamath has some questions in Freebury, but if we were to look at $1 spent by our government, waste, fraud, abuse, how many pennies of the dollar is it? If you had to, just based on what you've seen so far, a range.
Here's what I'd say. If you go into any company, any company you guys have ever seen that is not super well run, it probably is like easy cut 15%. Easy, easy, easy. This is where the trillion dollar number came from, 15% of $7 billion. I think if we had the political will, you'd easily get that 15%, no problem, not without any problem at all, and without cutting the core entitlement programs. So it's definitely there. The question is, do people want to do it or not? And remember, every dollar we take, we are taking from an NGO or a Beltway consultant. know it's it's actually the people are screaming about this because we're taking money from them uh and it is whatever you read the news media i gotta tell you it isn't true i mean um the cots i think it's 88 of the people that have left the government have taken packages the packages are very lucrative uh there's you know nine months or so of severance um and they're they're voluntary so yeah i tell you i'd also say the people that work in government who are good there's lots of good people in the government that i have met and appointed this at all this stuff they deserve better

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