DOGE updates + Liberation Day Tariff Reactions with Ben Shapiro and Antonio Gracias
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Who are the special guests in this episode?
All right, everybody, welcome back to the number one podcast in the world with me again today, Chamath Palihapitiya, your chairman dictator, David Freiberg, our sultan of science, and two guests, obviously, Ben Shapiro, very famous for having the number two podcast in the world. How are you, Ben? I'm doing great and just honored to be here, you know. Yes, more work to do. You could exceed all in in the rankings. No, we always judge ourselves, Ben, on three things. In the rankings, when we look at how we're doing, what we see is Ben Shapiro, prayer from the Bible, okay? The New Testament, I don't think you've got it yet. You have the Old Testament, but you haven't gotten the new, you haven't gotten the sequel. And then number three is,
Why is Antonio Gracias working with DOGE?
Murder also with us from the White House. Yeah, welcome to all in where we have a live feed into the White House today. My good friend Antonio Gracias is here. He is taking, I guess you're taking, would it be safe to say a hiatus or you're from Valor to do a little tour of duty in our government working on Doge? Is that the way to say it?
I'm still doing my day job too, man. This is a seven day a week, six days an hour a day job because I'm trying to do both. I've got some great partners that are covering it for me and my firm has been tremendous in allowing me to do this. But no, I'm still trying to do both.
Was it public prior to this week, Antonio, that you were doing this role? Did you announce it anywhere? I didn't announce it anywhere.
No, the New York Times, they wrote a story about me going to SSA, which is sort of New York Times style. Not right, but I had been there. Yeah, I was out of Woodland, Maryland.
40% correct. Close enough.
Close enough for hand grenades.
Close enough. I'm sure they had no agenda.
Antonio, how does it work? So when you volunteered... Is it that you and Elon and Steve just kind of figure out, let's put a senior person at every part of the administration where there's real opportunity? Why did you end up at SSA versus someplace else?
Interesting question. And by the way, it's great to see you guys, man. Thanks for having me on. I can use your laughs. You're really making me laugh. We're really proud of you, man. Thank you.
It's good to see you. Thank you. Suit looks great, by the way. Yeah.
What are DOGE's latest findings on illegal immigration and social security?
Thank you.
When do you have to return it?
The rental is due at the end of the week. Okay. So, yeah, no, what happened was I had actually volunteered to go to the VA because that's kind of, as you guys know, close to my heart. And Elon said to me, look, great, you can do that next, but will you go to SSA first and see what's going on there because it's the biggest internal employee we have and see what you find in fraud, waste, and abuse. And so, of course, I said, sure, I'll do that. And I ended up out in Woodland, Maryland with the good people at the SSA, the Social Security Administration. And that's where I started. That's how all this started for me.
And so do you, Antonio, go in there with a Doge engineer as your kind of sidekick per se, or you just go there solo and you show up? What happens day one when you walk into the place? What do you do?
So I brought with me two great professionals, John and Peyton from Valor. One of them an engineer, the other one I'd say a finance ninja. Both these guys are ninjas. And there was already a team there, actually, that was working with some great engineers. And one senior person, Scott Coulter, who's from, actually worked at Lone Pine, started his own fund, and had come here as a volunteer as well.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
Who are the special guests in this episode?
0:46–1:44
2
Why is Antonio Gracias working with DOGE?
1:44–3:09
3
What are DOGE's latest findings on illegal immigration and social security?
3:09–15:44
4
Was Biden's open border policy a strategic move to expand the voter base?
15:44–27:55
5
How did the tariffs on Liberation Day cause chaos and what are the reactions?
27:55–1:06:38
6
What are the potential consequences for the Trump Administration regarding tariffs?
1:06:38–1:31:21
7
How can the US thrive in a high-tariff world?
1:31:21–1:41:07
8
What is the future US political landscape if the tariff strategy fails?
1:41:07–1:54:02
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