Google's AI Brain Drain, SpaceX's Huge Quarter, Airtable's 90% Collapse, US Data Fuels China AI

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg 1h 15m 5 speakers 7 chapters transcribed 1 month ago
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Jason Calacanis 0:00
All right, everybody, welcome back to your favorite podcast. It's the all-in podcast. It's the summer. It's August 6th. Having a hard time getting a quorum here on the podcast. But David Friedberg is here. David Friedberg is back, our Sultan of Science. How are you doing, brother? Great to be with you. It's great to be with you. And Everybody loves. Brad Gersner is here. He's your Bruce Wayne. If markets are your game, he brings that namaste to your payday. Yes. Buy his glasses at discount and he'll get you one of those fancy Trump accounts. All right. Welcome back to the program, Brad. I love it. I love it. You bring the rhymes back. I bring a little intro back. We've been trying Chamath is on the road right now. Chamath is on the road, but we will get a field report from Chamath.
Jason Calacanis 0:45
And uh I I call Daniel some. How Sachs is going to be here, but you know how he is. He's always late because you know, he can get a phone call from very important people, but he will break in. At some point Oh wait, I see in the text here. Oh You made it.
Chamath Palihapitiya 1:02
How do you like my beautiful summer gelee? Uh it's incredible.
Jason Calacanis 1:06
It fits perfectly. You look warm.
Chamath Palihapitiya 1:09
I don't know how Chamoth does this.
Unknown 1:12
Yeah. Let your winners ride. Rainman David Sack. And instead we open source it to the fans and they've just gone crazy. Love you've
Jason Calacanis 1:29
Well, here's the report, everybody. As everybody knows, Shamath is on the road. He uh oh, here he is. He um this is a photo uh sacks he went. He went to check his data center progress. Uh I think that's in Colorado or Nevada, wherever he's building a data center. Oh, it's on Dune. Yes, Dune four. Ah, yes. Here he is, admiring himself. Oh, look. Here's Nat. You know when a a meme has reached its peak when your wife starts dunking on you. There it is. And here we are. This was at the Christmas party, I think. Oh, Brad, you were on CNDC with Andrew Ross Parkin.
David Sacks 2:04
Oh, there you go. I wasn't sure if it was my Twitter feed that was just selecting into it, but it really hit everyone, right? No, they hit everyone, right? This was a viral thing. This was a viral thing.
Jason Calacanis 2:11
This has hit everything. All right, listen. We got a lot to get to. Enough with the shenanigans and small talk. Google had uh two major shakeups to its AI staff on Wednesday. Demis Hasabas has moved to chair of DeepMind and chief scientist at Google. Reports describe this as Demis stepping down or being kicked upstairs. Uh, we'll get into that. But Google framed it as a promotion uh and said, As he was stepping up. Here's Axios's quote explaining the shakeup. Quote: Google's Gemini 3.5 Pro is months behind, with some company sources telling Axios that it's in part due to low morale. Interesting. Several top researchers, including Gemini's co-lead, have left the firm for competing AI labs. Jeff Dean, plus three other AI superstars, are leaving Google to start a company called Discovery Loop.
Jason Calacanis 2:56
Dean is a legend, Freeberg, and I think you worked with him at Google, one of the world's great AI engineers. He was employee number 30, joined in 1999, and has worked there for what I understand continuously for 27 years. Discovery Loop's gonna be focused on deep scientific breakthroughs in AI. Google shares down 4% on the news of Dean leaving. So $200 billion in lost market cap, if you want to correlate those two things. Freeberg, this is your alma mater. What are your thoughts here? Is this creative destruction? Maybe these people weren't delivering and they wanted fresh blood, or is this just the siren call of doing a startup in an age of unlimited capital for AI and unlimited opportunity? Just being too much for the OGs at Google to not take advantage of.
David Sacks 3:42
Maybe it's the third bucket, which is if you're the board and the management, you're having a debate about how to best deploy capital. Google has made a commitment to deploy $200 billion in CapEx this year in AI infrastructure data center build out. Because of the CapEx and accelerated depreciation. making an investment in AI compute in the US right now is hugely tax advantaged. And because of the extreme demand for compute, It's a pretty obvious kind of ROIC model, return on invested capital.

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