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Great job, Naval. You rocked it. Maybe I should have said this on air, but that was literally the most fun podcast I've ever recorded. Oh, that's on air. Cut that in. Yeah, put it in the show. Put it in the show. I had my theory on why you were number one, but now I have the realization.
Jason Calacanis 0:13
What's the actual reason? You know us for a long time.
Yeah, what was your theory? What's the reality? My theory was that my problem with going on podcasts is usually the person I'm talking to is not that interesting. They're just asking the same questions, and they're dialing it in, and they're not that interested. It's not like we're having a peer level actual conversations. That's why I wanted to do air chat and Clubhouse and things like that, because you can actually have a conversation. Oh, I see. Right? And what you guys have very uniquely is four people of whom at least three are intelligent. I'm kidding.
Chamath Palihapitiya 0:43
How could you say that? Sax isn't here. Sax isn't even here and you say that? That is so cold.
These three are intelligent and all of you get along and you can have an ongoing conversation. That's a very high hit rate. Normally in a podcast, you only get one interesting person and now you've got three, maybe four, right? Okay. So that to me was why- Who invited this guy?
Jason Calacanis 1:07
Who are you talking to?
He's number four. We don't know. He'll remain mysterious forever. Of the four, right? The problem is if you get people together to talk, two is a good conversation. Three possibly, four is the max. That's why the dinner table at a restaurant, four top, right? You don't do five or six because then it splits into multiple conversations. So you had four people who were capable of talking, right? That I thought was a secret, but there's another secret. The other secret is you guys are having fun. You're talking over each other. You're making fun of each other. You're actually having fun. So that's why I'm saying this is the most fun podcast I've ever been on. Awesome. That's why you'll be successful.
David Sacks 1:43
Welcome back anytime, Naval. Thanks, man.
Thank you. Welcome back. Keep it fun.
Chamath Palihapitiya 1:50
I can't believe that.
Jason Calacanis 1:53
I can't even believe you'd say that about Sacks. He's not even here to defend himself.
David Sacks 1:58
Sorry, David. Let your winners ride. Rain Man, David Sacks.
Jason Calacanis 2:11
All right, everybody, welcome back to the number one podcast in the world. We're really excited today. Back again, your Sultan of Science, David Friedberg. What do you got going on there, Friedberg? What's in the background? Everybody wants to know. Namaste.
David Sacks 2:33
I used to play a lot of a game called Sim Earth on my Macintosh LC way back in the day.
Jason Calacanis 2:38
That tracks. Yeah. That tracks. And of course, with us again, your chairman.
David Sacks 2:44
What games did you play growing up, J. Cal? Actually, I'm kind of curious. Did you ever play video games?
Jason Calacanis 2:47
Let's say, Andrea, Allison, Susan. I mean, it was like a... A lot of cute girls. I was out dating girls, Freeburg.
David Sacks 2:58
Yeah.
Jason Calacanis 2:58
I was not on my Apple II playing Civilization.
David Sacks 3:02
Let me find one of those pictures.
Jason Calacanis 3:04
Whoa, whoa, don't get me in trouble, man. The 80s were good to me in Brooklyn. Rejection, the video game. You have three lives. Rejected. Rejected. It's a numbers game, Chamath. As you know, as you well know, it is a numbers game.
David Sacks 3:19
Nick, go ahead. Pull up Rico Suave here.
Jason Calacanis 3:23
Oh, no. What is this one?
David Sacks 3:24
Instead of playing video, here I am. No, that's in the 80s.
Jason Calacanis 3:26
That's fat J-Cow. That's fat J-Cow.
David Sacks 3:30
Nick, help out your uncle. Yeah, here he is out slaying.
Jason Calacanis 3:33
Help out your uncle with the thin J-Cow. That's pre-ezympic. You know what he was slaying in there?
A snack. Pre-ezympic and post-ezympic, right? Correct.
Jason Calacanis 3:43
And weightlifting. Beef jerky. Go find my Leonardo DiCaprio picture, please, and replace my fat J-Cow picture with that. Thank you. Oh, God, I was fat. Man, plus 40 pounds is a lot heavier than I am. It's no joke. It's no joke. 40 pounds is a lot. It's no joke, bro. I mean, there's so many great emo photos of me. I'm proud of you. Thank you, my man. Thank you, my man.
Chamath Palihapitiya 4:07
If you want a good photo... Can you get through the intros, please, so we can start? Come on, quick.

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