All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Trump: Send National Guard to SF, China Rare Earths Trade War, AI's PR Crisis
17 Oct 2025
(0:00) Bestie intros! Dreamforce and another interesting conference take the Bay Area (3:35) State of crime in SF, do they need the National Guard? (20:48) US to impose price floors after China puts export controls on rare earths, can America on-shore a full-stack rare earth industry? (36:15) State of US-China ahead of the Trump-Xi meeting, how we got here, China's elite mercantilism and strong economic history (52:59) AI PR crisis: Recent datacenters get denied Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/10/us/marc-benioff-san-francisco-guard.html https://www.wsj.com/opinion/san-francisco-cleans-up-for-xi-why-not-for-thee-242c67e3 https://x.com/the_jefferymead/status/1978130345200427334 https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/nualabishari/article/san-francisco-harm-reduction-managed-alcohol-19489131.php https://www.kqed.org/news/11985941/sf-program-isnt-just-free-beer-for-unhoused-its-backed-up-by-research https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/jb-pritzker-won-14-million-vegas-playing-blackjack-rcna237961 https://www.ft.com/content/ca3b3254-e161-41d1-b459-bc3c83004e4e https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/12/business/china-rare-earth-export-controls.html https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115351840469973590 https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115350455734003647 https://mpmaterials.com/mountain-pass https://www.reuters.com/world/china/trump-track-meet-xi-south-korea-bessent-says-2025-10-13/ https://chinapower.csis.org/tracker/china-gdp https://www.reuters.com/world/china/chinas-communist-party-holds-plenum-its-next-five-year-plan-what-does-it-mean-2025-10-15 https://www.economist.com/china/2025/10/09/xi-jinping-is-personally-involved-in-chinas-new-five-year-plan https://www.amazon.com/Lee-Kuan-Yew-Insights-international/dp/0262019124 https://www.mearsheimer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/The-Australian-November-18-2005.pdf https://nationalinterest.org/feature/can-china-rise-peacefully-10204 https://www.whitecase.com/insight-alert/china-imposes-extraterritorial-jurisdiction-and-50-rule-export-controls-rare-earth https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/commerce-department-issues-affiliates-5215830/ https://www.amazon.com/End-History-Last-Man/dp/0743284550 https://www.amazon.com/Clash-Civilizations-Remaking-World-Order/dp/1451628978 https://www.amazon.com/World-Flat-History-Twenty-first-Century/dp/0374292884 https://x.com/balajis/status/1937517664907460980 https://x.com/chamath/status/1978584886329082098 https://www.datacenterwatch.org/report https://x.com/chamath/status/1977794775148601541
Full Episode
All right, you guys were talking about the fun shenanigans you were having in San Francisco and at Mark Benioff's Dreamforce.
Did you see Brian Johnson was at Benioff's CEO dinner?
Oh, I didn't see him. Yeah. Matthew McConaughey was at our table at dinner.
All right, all right, all right, David Sacks. All right, all right, all right. McConaughey's fabulous.
He is funny. Did you see where I was sitting at that dinner? Yeah, table one. Right next to the king himself. The king himself, exactly.
The king who? The king and I? Benioff is a king?
Well, he's the king of San Francisco.
At his party. He's the king of San Francisco.
Yeah, I mean, obviously he has to bend the knee to the king of kings, which is Trump, but... I was sitting next to Benioff there. It got weird. It got a little weird. No, well, what happened was, did you see that SF standards? Yeah. I don't even know how they can write a headline like this.
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