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E17: Will Europe Be Defense-Ready for War by 2030?

03 Dec 2025

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Europe has set itself a clear goal: be militarily ready by 2030. But with drone incursions, airspace violations and a rapidly shifting geopolitical landscape, is that timeline still realistic? And what does "ready" actually mean in practice?In this episode of Allies in Innovation, host Mikkel Svold revisits the EU security and defense agenda with Séverin Schnepp, Associate Director of European Affairs at Terma, and Christine Nissen, Chief Analyst at Think Tank Europa. Together, they unpack the EU Defense Readiness Roadmap 2030, the Danish EU presidency, and what has really changed in the past four months on defense and security.ªThey discuss new EU instruments like EDIP and the SAFE loan, the idea of European preference in defense procurement, and the evolving relationship between states and industry. At the same time, they explore the political realities, national interests and time pressure that could either drive Europe toward real readiness or keep it stuck in talks and strategies.If you want to understand how Europe is trying to move from vision to capability, this episode gives you a clear and grounded overview.In this episode, you will learn about:1. What the EU Defense Readiness Roadmap 2030 actually aims to achieve.2. How the Danish EU presidency has pushed key defense initiatives forward.3. The role of EDIP and the SAFE loan in strengthening Europe’s defense industry.4. What European preference means for defense procurement and industry.5. Why drones and hybrid threats are changing the sense of urgency.6. How national interests and geography shape countries’ threat perceptions.7. Why the relationship between states and defense industry needs a reset.8. The main roadblocks to coordination, speed and common capability projects.Episode Content 00:00 Can Europe be ready for war by 2030 and what does readiness mean 01:03 New security reality with airspace violations and drone incursions 03:44 What the Danish EU presidency has actually delivered on defense 04:26 EDIP, the Defense Roadmap and cutting red tape for industry05:40 How the broader geopolitical context has raised the stakes08:27 The SAFE loan and how 19 member states have signed up09:25 Turning EU money and loans into real capabilities and production10:58 What the EU can do to better push the agenda into industry13:14 European preference and why EU funds are tied to EU-made systems16:19 Fragmentation, national interests and incentives to cooperate18:23 Main roadblocks: coordination, speed and defining “smart choices” 23:19 Is the 2030 readiness goal realistic and how deadlines change behavior27:45 Are we moving toward a real “one European team” mindset33:25 What defense spending looks like per EU citizen35:18 The final stretch of the Danish presidency and what comes next37:22 Flagship capability projects and priorities for 2026 and beyond ProductionThis podcast is brought to you by Terma. This podcast is produced by Montanus.

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