All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Pete Buttigieg: The Left's Identity Crisis, Wealth Tax, 2024 Mistakes, Plans for 2028
30 Oct 2025
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There are certain trillion dollar ideas that the private sector just won't do because it doesn't pencil or because of whatever market failure is there. That's where you need government. First of all, the debt path we're on is not sustainable. That I think identity has become too central to how my party thinks.
My big worry is that if we're already at a level of concentration of wealth and power that no republic has ever survived, is this going to be a development that just makes wealth and power even more concentrated in even fewer hands?
All right, besties. I think that was another epic discussion. People love the interviews. I could hear him talk for hours. Absolutely. We crushed your questions. Admit it.
We are giving people ground truth data to underwrite your own opinion. What do you guys think? That was fun. That was great.
All right, everybody, welcome back to the All In podcast interview series. Last week, we had Joe Manchin on. This week, Pete Buttigieg is here. Everybody knows Mayor Pete, born in South Bend, Harvard, Rhodes Scholar, McKinsey, U.S. Navy, and, of course, ran for president and was the transportation secretary under Biden. Welcome to the program, Pete Buttigieg. How are you? Good.
Thanks for having me. Pleasure. I meet Shamath Palihapitiya, a former Democrat who re-underwrite his support of your party and now is a Republican. And really the spirit of this program is to just have a candid discussion. We like to get into the details. And so I thought I wanted to start with your perception of entrepreneurs, technologists, etc. I was watching a clip of you on Bill Maher.
And you said, hey, you know, these libertarian science-based folks in Silicon Valley, they made a very practical decision. These are rich men who have decided to back the Republican Party that tends to do good things for rich men. And these rich men include
Tim Cook, Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk, these are people who have been part of the Democratic Party for a very long time, huge donors to the Democratic Party, and they all made this sort of flip. Do you think it was just pragmatically based upon the desire to have less regulations, a better business environment to personally make more money?
Or do you think there were other things at work with the loss in 2024?
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