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Can Trump convince Republicans he’s won the war on Iran?

24 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is Donald Trump's claim about winning the war on Iran?

0.031 - 25.701 Donald Trump

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27.183 - 31.228 James Crawford

Vaasan Sähkö on ylihyvä vaihtoehto.

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31.268 - 35.755 Donald Trump

Siksi Vaasan Sähköllä on asiakkaita joka ikisessä Suomen kaupungissa.

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Ai Vaasan Sähköllä.

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37.317 - 41.082 Donald Trump

Just niin. Pitkä historia ja ylihyvä hinta vetää puoleensa.

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Siis näinköhän.

42.504 - 44.126 Donald Trump

Kurkkaa sopparit osoitteesta.

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Siis onko Rovaniemellä?

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Siellä ollaan myös.

Chapter 2: Why are Republican senators skeptical of lifting sanctions on Iran?

46.489 - 54.76 Donald Trump

Tampere? Kyllä. Kurkkaa osoitte. Siis Oulussakin. On, on. Ja osoite on. Vaasan Sähkö.fi

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57.929 - 76.731 Sarah Smith

Donald Trump is claiming victory in the war in Iran long before a peace deal has even been agreed. But already there are lots of critics in America asking, if we won, why are we waiving sanctions on Iranian oil and effectively giving the regime money up front before safeguards and nuclear inspections have been agreed?

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77.131 - 82.738 Sarah Smith

Just months before the midterm elections, Donald Trump's got to try and persuade his own party and voters to

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Chapter 3: How does Trump's narrative about Iran differ from reality?

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that this is a really good deal from America and he's facing a lot of scepticism. We're going to unpick the politics behind how he's going to try and sell this as a victory. Welcome to AmeriCast.

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96.86 - 111.665 Donald Trump

This is a big cover-up, and this administration is engaged in it. This guy has Trump Arrangement Syndrome.

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111.726 - 117.676 Lakeisha Benjamin

I have four words for you.

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118.137 - 120.06 Donald Trump

Turn the volume up!

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No!

123.995 - 126.679 Sarah Smith

Hello, it's Sarah here in the BBC's Bureau in Washington.

126.92 - 130.064 Anthony Zurcher

And it's Anthony sitting right next to Sarah here in Washington, D.C.

Chapter 4: What are the implications of the memorandum of understanding with Iran?

130.906 - 147.912 Sarah Smith

And let's recap, Anthony, where we've got to, because I wouldn't be at all surprised if people are confused about what the state of negotiations or the war with Iran is. I find it incredibly difficult to keep up myself. The U.S. and Iran have signed a memorandum of understanding, haven't they, which is which is not a peace agreement.

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147.952 - 166.236 Sarah Smith

It's basically an extended ceasefire deal that gives them 60 days to talk about what a final settlement might look like. And it's a bit confusing as to what's in this and what the terms of this agreement are. The things Donald Trump are telling us are completely different from what the Iranians tell us. Do we know the truth?

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166.216 - 171.646 Anthony Zurcher

There's a lot of gray area in this 14-point memorandum of understanding.

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Chapter 5: How are high gas prices affecting Trump's political strategy?

171.706 - 185.571 Anthony Zurcher

There's talk about ceasing hostilities, obviously, not even threatening hostilities. There's talk about lifting U.S. sanctions on Iran, Iran reiterating that they're not going to develop a nuclear weapon.

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185.611 - 205.858 Anthony Zurcher

There's talk about opening the Strait of Hormuz, which obviously was one of the big points that the United States wanted to accomplish here, even if it just goes back to the way things were before the war. Talk about the United States lifting the barricade, the blockade on all Iranian tropic, which the United States seems to do. It lays out the framework for

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205.838 - 226.086 Anthony Zurcher

some sort of lasting peace, as you say. But it is not the details about nuclear inspections, how to ensure that Iran is giving up its nuclear program, what to do with the enriched uranium, how to get it down to a level that is not so close to being ready for a nuclear bomb. All of that stuff still needs to be hashed out, which is one of the reasons J.D.

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Chapter 6: What impact does the socialist movement in New York have on the Democratic Party?

226.126 - 239.693 Anthony Zurcher

Vance, the vice president, and a negotiating team went to Switzerland this last weekend to met with Iranians there. And it came out again with progress being made, but no concrete kind of developments, at least not yet.

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240.23 - 268.836 Sarah Smith

And yet, some of the provisions that we do know about that have come into force already, like, as you mentioned, Anthony, rolling back oil sanctions, have become incredibly controversial here in America because you've got, well, you've got Democrats who were opposed to this war from the very beginning, but you've also got a significant hawkish strand of the Republican Party who didn't want him to stop until the Iranian regime had been toppled or certainly very clearly defeated in a way they feel they haven't been, as well as, of course, all the

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268.816 - 283.278 Sarah Smith

The MAGA base are deeply uncomfortable about the idea of getting embroiled in this war. And some of them seem to be united around the idea that it's not a great idea to lift sanctions on selling Iranian oil before they've been compelled to do anything else.

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283.359 - 290.149 Sarah Smith

It's like just in order to get the talks going, all of a sudden they're going to be able to sell oil on the international market for the first time since 1979.

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290.416 - 313.126 Anthony Zurcher

Yeah, when Obama and his team were negotiating the JCPOA back about 10 years ago, they tied the sanctions lifting and the delivery of money, the assets that were frozen to Iran to the signing of the formal deal that set forth all of these details about inspections and enriched uranium. and everything else. So this is different.

Chapter 7: Who are the key figures in the recent New York primaries?

313.146 - 326.265 Anthony Zurcher

This is essentially giving Iran something right off the get go. And Donald Trump says it's not like that. It's not like that. We're not giving him all this money. Well, here, let's listen to him explain this in a clip from Monday in the Oval Office.

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326.625 - 344.445 Donald Trump

If the sanctions go out, money is going to be put into this country. All that money is coming back in the form of purchases of food, which they desperately need. They have 91 million people. They can't feed them. So the money that we lift is going to go to our farmers, largely to our farmers.

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Chapter 8: What challenges does Trump face with Senate Republicans regarding Iran?

344.725 - 349.212 Bill Cassidy

Can you assure that the Iranians won't use profits from oil sales to rebuild their military?

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349.252 - 365.092 Donald Trump

Well, they're not supposed to be doing that, sir. Well said. But they're supposed to use money to buy food for their people because right now their people are very hungry and they're buying it exclusively from us. Corn, soybeans. There should be a lot of money. I hope it's a lot of money.

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365.132 - 373.962 Brian Burke

The Press If a war with Iran could cause a worldwide depression, as you noted, Mr. President, are you willing to risk economic catastrophe and strike Iran again?

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373.982 - 375.564 Donald Trump

The President Well, not the way I'm doing it.

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375.584 - 379.89 Brian Burke

It's not going to cause depression. The Press Yes, but if they don't abide by the memorandum of understanding.

380.13 - 405.169 Donald Trump

The President Well, nuclear weapon supersedes depression. Depression is real bad. Nuclear weapon will cause depression much more quickly. The way we're doing it, we have the opposite of a depression. We're doing really well. The numbers are incredible. The oil is at a level that nobody has ever seen before. Oil prices are way down. I think they're very comparable to what they were, Chris.

405.189 - 422.517 Sarah Smith

So that was a little confusing. But essentially what Donald Trump seemed to be saying there was that, yes, they are going to lift sanctions on the sale of Iranian oil. And he hopes that they will use that money to buy food for the Iranian population. And he thinks that they have to buy it exclusively from American consumers.

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farmers, the corn and the soybeans, whilst the Iranians have come out and said there's absolutely no requirement in the memorandum of understanding to say that they're obliged to buy from the United States. So the one positive Donald Trump can get out of this, the Iranians say isn't true.

436.925 - 462.579 Anthony Zurcher

Yeah, it seems difficult for them to be able to require Iran to use the money for that. And Trump, you could sense a little bit of a doubt in his voice when he was saying that. But Iran sells oil to China, to India, to all these different countries. There's no guarantee that the profits they get from that will increase. which they would control, would be used for purchasing American food.

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