Stunning Reversal: Luigi Mangione Withdraws Psychiatric Defense

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Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes Present 25 min 7 speakers 5 chapters transcribed 2 months ago
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T.J. Holmes 2:02
Hey there, folks. It is Friday, June 19th, and what a quick and stunning reversal by Luigi Mangione. On one day, he's essentially saying, yeah, I did it, but I was under emotional distress. The next day, he says, nah, never mind. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ say what? Say what? The UnitedHealthcare shooter is going to claim a psychiatric defense on Wednesday? On Thursday, he said, ah, never mind.
Amy Robach 2:33
Yeah, I don't feel like that bodes well. Look, he's got a tough, tough mountain to climb no matter what from a defense standpoint.
T.J. Holmes 2:40
What do you mean, the surveillance video of him shooting the guy?
Amy Robach 2:42
Correct. Then maybe his, what do they call it, manifesto, his diary where he literally maps out in details, planning it and then doing it. And then the murder weapon in his backpack? So you were saying there are a lot of problems for his defense team. But this certainly does not help. Whoopsie. Never mind. We didn't consider the implications because, look, this is for his state trial. And in the state of New York, this defense that I actually had never heard of before, an extreme emotional disturbance defense is only allowed in New York. You cannot use the same defense anywhere. in federal court, and that might have been part of the, oh, wow, maybe we shouldn't do that. This could affect our federal case.
Amy Robach 3:28
But also, you had the prosecution saying, show us what you got. They had a deadline on Thursday to show them what they got, and they said, never mind.
T.J. Holmes 3:38
Okay, so I will start with an oops by the defense team. Hard to understand that one, given who this defense team is. These are Diddy's lawyers. And I know Diddy's in jail. But he will be out in a couple of springs.
Amy Robach 3:54
Actually, his release date just got moved up to February, I saw. We didn't add that.
T.J. Holmes 3:58
27 or 28.
Amy Robach 3:58
It's February of 28. 28.
T.J. Holmes 4:00
Okay. So his keeps getting moved up. He could have been life in prison. He will be out in two springs. So what we're saying is his lawyers know what the hell they're doing. Maggioni's lawyers. It's hard to imagine an oversight to say, oh, maybe we shouldn't have done that.

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