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anything goes with emma chamberlain

i think i finally figured out how to rest

29 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: Why is resting challenging for the host?

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It feels like every single trait that I have makes me adverse to rest. Resting is incredibly challenging for me. And I know what a lot of you are thinking. Emma, how is resting hard for you? The whole point of rest is that it's easy, that it's relaxing, that you don't even have to try. It's just easy. It's the easiest thing you can do. It's rest. Like, how could that be hard for you?

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Listen, I ask myself the same thing. But when I look inward, it makes a lot of sense. I'm just not built to rest. Every fiber of my being wants to move, wants to do things, wants to control, wants to overthink. This is just who I am. And to be honest, it makes a lot of sense because my mom is even worse than me. She is even more of a busy body than I am. She's constantly doing something.

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Now that I think about it, though, as she's gotten older, she's learned to rest a bit more. But my point of bringing my mom into this is that it seems it might be genetic. Whenever I talk about this side of myself, this sort of busybody, control freak, perfectionist side of myself, I'm always a bit hesitant because I know that it can come off as sort of a humble brag in a way.

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Chapter 2: How does anxiety affect the ability to rest?

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Like, you guys, I just can't help it. I just get so much done because I'm just such a busybody. I'm such a freak. I just get so much done. I'm just so productive. I know that it can come off that way. But the truth is, is that it's not a flex. Are there maybe some benefits to being this way? Sure. But I think ultimately, it is not a pleasant way of life.

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I think it leads to burnout so frequently that it's The productivity is actually not as productive as it seems, if that makes sense. Like I actually don't think I end up getting any more done than somebody who maybe doesn't possess the traits that I have. The difference being I'm so stressed about, you know, constantly doing things.

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that I end up doing too much in a burst of energy coming from a place of stress and almost like desperation. Then I exhaust myself to the point where I can't do anything. And then that makes me feel so terrible that then I have a terrible phase of restfulness where I'm beating myself up, feeling guilty, blah, blah, blah. And eventually I muster up just enough energy for another burst.

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And then I get burnt out again and the cycle continues. So it's not a flex. It's one of my greatest challenges, I think. I briefly interrupt this episode to let you know that this episode is presented by Venmo. Okay, hear me out. Apparently, you can earn cash back with your Venmo debit card.

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Chapter 3: What role does perfectionism play in the host's life?

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All you have to do is join Venmo Stash in Boom. You get cash back when you shop at your favorite brands. Now back to the episode. Let's dive into me as a person. Let's dissect me so that you can understand why rest is so hard for me, okay? To start, I am very anxious and I'm an overthinker, okay?

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This is just who I am, but being anxious and being an overthinker makes rest really challenging because you know what an anxious overthinker does when they're resting? They ruminate, they overthink, they overanalyze. They have the time to spiral about something.

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So part of me wonders if I sort of have a fear of rest in a way because I'm like, oh, if I rest, like I know my mind will run amok, I'm going to have unpleasant thoughts. Whereas if I keep myself distracted and active, I won't have as much time or energy to indulge in those uncomfortable, painful, irrational thoughts.

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I think a lot of my sort of overactiveness is a response and perhaps a defense mechanism in a way. Or not a defense mechanism. Well, yeah, a defense mechanism. It's a distraction from anxiety and overthinking. Listen, I'm constantly working on my mindfulness to... help with my anxiety and my overthinking, but the journey is ongoing. I do not have it all figured out.

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And there are times in my life where the thought of resting and allowing those thoughts to come in, it's just too much for me. And I'm like, I just can't handle it right now. There's too many other things going on in my life. I don't want to sit with my thoughts right now. I can't handle it. I know that they're not going to be good.

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And so I'm just going to keep myself busy and distracted so that I don't have to deal with

Chapter 4: How does hustle culture impact the perception of rest?

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my anxieties and the things that I could overthink. The next trait that I have is that I'm a perfectionist. I am rarely satisfied. There's always more that could be done in every single category of my life. Work, myself, like my personal self, like my physical being even. chores around the house, everything. Nothing is ever perfect to me.

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And there are times when I get wrapped up in my perfectionism and I believe the myth that there is a sort of perfect that I'm striving for that I could reach. And so I'm working with this idea of perfection in my subconscious that I'm not even fully aware of. And if I were to bring it to the forefront of my mind, I would realize, oh, wait, I probably should stop sooner than I am, right?

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I probably should allow myself to consider things to be complete sooner so that I can rest and enjoy the fruits of my labor. But my default is to never be satisfied, for things to never be quite right, for things to always require more work, putting me in a state where the to-do list never ends, right? And when you're existing in a state like that, it's like, well, I can't rest.

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My to-do list is not done. But if you're a perfectionist, it's like, yeah, well, the to-do list never ends. And that's not healthy. And I know that. I'm also a control freak. I think the control freak and the perfectionist go hand in hand.

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Chapter 5: What was the host's experience during the holiday break?

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And I also think that goes hand in hand with the anxiety, right? It's like, I wanna feel in control of everything in my life because it's soothing for me. Because anxiety stems from a lack of control, at least for me. And so controlling everything in my life to a point that's unhealthy, at least in the moment, helps relieve some anxiety because I feel in control of things.

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I don't feel like they'll get away from me. I don't feel like they'll run away from me. I do find a lot of solace. It's like, well, I find temporary solace in being a control freak. It's instant gratification. In the moment when I'm controlling everything I can, it brings me a sense of peace. But long-term, it exhausts me.

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I also think too that being a perfectionist is, I mean, maybe being a perfectionist and being a control freak are the same thing. To me, making things as perfect as they can possibly be gives me a sense of control because it makes me feel like nothing can go wrong if I do a perfect job, which then relieves my anxiety. It's this disgusting web of hell. Let me be more gentle.

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But it is this disgusting web. Okay, we'll take hell out of this, but it is a disgusting web in my mind. A sick fucking web of just chaos in there. And it all intertwines. If I had to provide a symbol for you that could explain to you what my brain looks like...

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The picture that I would show you would be it would be like a cork board with a bunch of pictures and weird little random things pinned to it with a bunch of red string connecting it all like a detective. That's how my brain is. It's this like and maybe everybody's brain is like that. But my brain is like this complicated web of chaos for no reason because I'm not solving a crime.

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You know, I'm not a detective. It doesn't need to be like that. Like I dream of a brain that looks like an organized file cabinet. My God, what a beautiful way of functioning compared to what I'm doing. Like in movies, when you see a person trying to solve a mystery with a board like that in front of them, they're usually not in a good place. Do you know what I'm saying?

Chapter 6: How did the host's breaking point lead to transformation?

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Their hair is all fucked up. They're like beside themselves trying to solve a mystery. You know, if you see a detective in a movie that has their shit together, they got a slick back bun and they're wearing a power suit. I'll tell you, their files are in a cabinet. You know what I mean? Like it's it's very symbolic. Anyway, moving on.

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I think the anxiety, the overthinking, the perfectionism and the control freak is all kind of one in the same. It's all very connected. But I'm also somebody who struggles with imposter syndrome. Like I really struggle to feel like I've earned what I have in my life, you know? And I felt this way since I was a kid. Like I feel like even in school, I would get good grades.

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because I worked really hard, but I still felt dumb. I was like, I feel like I'm too dumb to have the grades that I have. I feel like I don't deserve to have an A. I feel like I somehow tricked everyone into thinking that I, well, it's not even tricked everyone into thinking.

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I would feel like, I feel like I somehow tricked my way into getting a good grade on the test and I don't actually deserve the good grade on the test. I've somehow cheated without even cheating. I've never cheated on a test in my life. I've always studied and worked hard and done what I needed to do to make it happen. And still, even then, I somehow always feel like I cheated.

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And I feel like that as an adult in my career. I'm like, I constantly feel like an imposter, that I don't deserve what I have, that I haven't worked hard enough. And again, that adds to this sort of side of myself where I can't rest because it's like, I don't deserve what I have. So I can't take a day off because I haven't earned it.

Chapter 7: What strategies can be employed for effective rest?

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Even if I have, I've convinced myself that I haven't earned it. And last but not least, this is less of a personal personality trait, but this is just kind of the state of our current culture. I, as with many of you, am a victim of hustle culture, okay? I wouldn't say that we're at a point societally where hustle culture is peaking anymore.

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Like I feel like it peaked a few years ago, but it's still definitely prevalent. Hustle culture, according to the internet, plagues people with the mindset that constant work, productivity and self-optimization are the ultimate measures of worth. And despite my belief that hustle culture is toxic, I find myself captured by it anyway.

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It's so ingrained in our culture, it seems, that it's very hard to keep perspective and to remember that it's toxic. And I think too, hustle culture peaked a few years ago in a pivotal moment in my life, you know what I mean? Where I was young and trying to figure out my work ethic and how to have a work ethic.

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And while I was on that journey, all of the media that I consumed on the internet, the undertone of it all was coming from hustle culture, you know? And I know, I know that it's toxic. I know that it's not conducive, like believing in hustle culture, believing in, I mean, listen, it's tough because like being productive and having discipline and all these things are good.

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But I think the problem with hustle culture is that it's too extreme. There is no room for relaxation and soulfulness in hustle culture. It's very much like our purpose as human beings is to get shit done. And I know that it's not true. I know that it's toxic, but it just sometimes it creeps in anyway. And so it's safe to say that I am not built for rest.

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And on top of that, we are not living in a time where rest is valued, where it's celebrated. Rest is not. It is not in. You know what I'm saying? What's in is being a productive machine. So I struggle with rest. even though I know the truth. I know how important rest is and I'll give people advice about how to rest.

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I have such a deep understanding of the importance of rest that I feel comfortable giving people advice on how and why they should rest. It's a very perplexing thing to know exactly how to do something, but to not be able to do it. I think my greatest struggle is effectively resting. We can be doing something and thinking that we're resting, but we're not. Because what is effective rest?

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In order for rest to be effective, it has to actually be restful. You have to actually come out the other side rested. Otherwise, it's not rest, it's something else.

Chapter 8: What lessons did the host learn about rest and productivity?

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Effective rest, according to the internet, is rest that actually rejuvenates your mind, body, and creativity so you return to work or life feeling refreshed rather than drained. Listen, I can take a day off every once in a while, but I struggle to take that day off and use it effectively. That's my issue.

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I can force myself to do that, but it's very rare that upon giving myself the space to rest that I actually use it properly. Let me share with you some examples of effective rest, okay? Mental rest, like meditation or journaling. Physical rest, like napping or gentle yoga. Fun rest, like painting or playing instruments with your friends, if you know how to play instruments.

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Social rest, like talking to a friend or doing the opposite if you're feeling socially exhausted and having some time by yourself. Sensory rest, like spending quiet time in nature or doing a digital detox and not going on any devices, and doing all without guilt, fully succumbing to the rest and allowing it to be truly enjoyable and truly restful. Over the holidays, I decided it was time.

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I needed to give myself two weeks of effective rest. It's long overdue. I'm feeling incredibly burnt out. I'm feeling incredibly emotionally exhausted. I've not effectively rested in a very long time. I'm going to take these two weeks and I'm really going to do it. It's dire. Because I'm so bad at resting, right? Like, I'm constantly either on the verge of burning out or burned out.

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And on top of that, I'm going through a breakup. Yeah, it's been a few months, but it almost seems to be getting worse. You know what I mean? Well, no... It goes through phases, but it's not a linear journey, right? And so right before the holidays, for whatever reason, I was particularly struggling with my breakup. And on top of that, I was feeling burnt out and emotionally exhausted.

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It was just like, I needed rest so bad. I was not in a good place. I was not a happy camper. I knew that the holidays needed to be a time of effective rest and rejuvenation for me because I was not in a good place. Well, unfortunately for me, I came out of my holiday break feeling, you won't believe it, even more exhausted, even more exhausted than I did going into it. How did this happen?

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I didn't have it in me to rest effectively. I knew I was resting wrong, but I did it anyway. You want to know how I spent my two weeks of what I wanted to be rest and rejuvenation? I spent it brain rotting. I kid you not. I spent my entire holiday break, On YouTube Shorts, scrolling. I got my bare minimum done in addition to that.

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I spent time with friends and family, which was enjoyable to an extent. I continued to exercise. I did my skincare routine. It's not like all I ever did was brain rot, but in every single free moment, I was on YouTube Shorts. Every single minute that didn't get filled by something else, it was filled with that. And this led to an immense feeling of guilt.

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You know, I knew I was using my resting time incorrectly, but I just did not have it in me. I didn't have the self-control to do anything else. It's sort of a paradox. In order to rest effectively, you actually do need to have a little bit of energy left in the tank.

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