Stolen Buses, a Series Win & Marc Ellis’s Party Trick | South Africa ’96

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What set the scene for Eric Rush’s memories of the 1996 South Africa tour?

James Parsons 0:00
Kia ora and welcome to another episode of Aotearoa Rugby Pod. I'm Ross Carr alongside Bryn Hall and James Parsons will be with us soon along with Eric Rush for a cracker of an interview where Eric's going to tell us all sorts of incredible stories. Stick around for what Mark Ellis did with a condom. Who was it that's not as sure as Patrick and what could you see after he did it and of course a shaver incident that is absolutely mind-blowing. So, with no further ado, Eric Rush, welcome to Aotearoa Rugby Pod. No problem. Thanks for having me, guys. 30 years has gone and you must just be getting questions left, right and centre about this tour right now, are you?
Eric Rush 0:41
I'm feeling pretty old after you just said that, that's for sure. Like, we were the last team to do a full tour there, I guess, so there have been a few questions around the place. It's been good to be reminded of what we actually went and did over there.
Zac Djellab 0:55
They got the 1996 team to actually go into the All Blacks before they left. What happened during that kind of little time that you were in camp?
Eric Rush 1:01
They really got a hold of John Hart and And they, between them, arranged for the 96 team to go in there and sit down and have a chat with the full travelling squad, just to talk about what it was like and what to expect, et cetera, et cetera. And it was a really cool moment for us old blokes to be invited back into the environment. And, yeah, that was a really cool night. Really cool.
James Parsons 1:28
What were the things that you told them about?
Eric Rush 1:30
There's a few guys who play test matches over there, you know, amongst the playing group and amongst the coaching staff as well. But this, you know, being over there for six, seven weeks or however long it is, she's a different beast because in New Zealand, we think we love rugby. You've seen nothing until you've been to South Africa. Those people really live for the game. And, you know, if you hear it once a day, you'd hear it a hundred times a day. We're going to kill you, man. You know, we're going to murder you, man. Every day, every minute, you know, it got to be a bit annoying. But, you know, you just knew that these people were passionate. And you knew we were a long way from home. They didn't make you feel welcome at any stage.
Bryn Hall 2:20
How important was that, Rashi, in the sense that you had to sort of create some fun in the team environment? Because obviously there's an intensity and you're sort of in a war zone. How did you guys manage that to have the fun as well?
Eric Rush 2:37
Yeah, well, I think Hardy did that really well. And Mike Banks was the manager. And they split the team into four teams. And we played tennis, we played touch, we played everything, volleyball. They had competitions like they had four scrum machines that weren't put together. So one of the challenges was who could put the scrum machine together the quickest. And Zinni and Fitzy obviously cheated. They went down the night before and broke open the container. And they had a practice run, and they kicked everyone the next day, but no one knew until about 10 years later what they'd done. So it doesn't surprise me with Fitzy and Zitty. But that's what we did to try and break up the –
Zac Djellab 3:26
the intensity because it was full-on from from from woe to go back in those days you probably know who the test team was and you'd be playing the midweek games how was that how was that kind of run were you guys all together you know with the with the test players running the the maps and the moves for you guys that were going to be able to play the midweek games like how did that all kind of work there was no maps and moves in those days it was just uh everyone played the same kind of football but uh
Eric Rush 3:52
But it was definitely two teams. We set up two teams. And I think we were the first team that went away with more than 30 players. I think we had 34. I think they're taking 46 this time. we had eight management and I think they've got over 30 management this time around. So things have changed a little bit, but you're dead right. Our job as midweekers was to get the testing ready because in those days there wasn't the rest and rotation and there wasn't the sub rule.

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