Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
Welcome, welcome, welcome.
Oh no, what happened?
I don't know. You know the yips? We just had a guest on talking about the yips.
Oh, right.
So athletes famously get the yips. And what if I got the yip that I couldn't say welcome, welcome, welcome? That's how crazy the yips are. I know. Take this thing you can do, you've done for decades, and all of a sudden you mentally can't do it.
Well, that's such a ding, ding, ding, because I'm rereading a book right now called Art of Fielding that is this.
It is.
It's about the yips.
Okay, so welcome, welcome, welcome to Armchair Expert. I'm Dan Shepard. I'm joined by Lily Padman.
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Chapter 2: What insights does Jack McBrayer share about his upbringing?
Fever-y, Jack, do you know? I don't use the word stole.
What was it?
I didn't try. You always say try.
Well, because I thought you said it got stuck.
I just wasn't able to liberate the coins from the thing once I got it into my apartment. But I did steal the parking meter.
You stole a parking meter, but he couldn't get the coins.
Lots of stuff. That's illegal. The point is, life's too fucking short to not steal a parking meter. Well, that too. But to have a version of myself I'm protecting from, quote, the broader world. Rebuttal?
Yeah.
So that's just where I come from. Great. And then, yes, I feel your reservation. I'm dying to know what it's all about.
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Chapter 3: What was Jack McBrayer's experience auditioning for 30 Rock?
It impacted me in such a way. So, of course, I wanted to do it. They did see me. You got to audition? I got to audition. I don't think they've seen the tape. No, of course it didn't happen. I auditioned the same day as Seth Meyers. Oh, you did? Yes. In New York? In New York.
Chapter 4: How did Jack transition from Second City to New York?
It blew me out. Yeah.
It was awesome.
What was your nerve level? Oh, very high. Very high. Quite high.
Very high.
And it's one of those things where, of course, I was not fit for this show. But man, just to be able to be on that stage. For me, just being in an airport and having somebody hold up your name on a sign. Yeah. It's so cool. Take off my wig and throw it off. Yeah. But I got to be on 30 Rock. That is a show that is based on SNL. That is a show that is produced by Lorne Michaels.
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Chapter 5: What unique experiences does Jack share about Zillow Gone Wild?
And written by the previous head writer.
I'll do that.
Yeah.
When you moved to New York, did you already have something set up? Did you know you were going to start working at Conan? No.
I seemed so enthusiastic. No. No. The reason I went to New York was Jeff Richman, taking care of his boy, Jack McBrayer, was remounting a show called Hamlet the Musical that he had originally staged in Chicago 100 years earlier. And he said, hey, I just heard you're leaving Second City. Would you be interested in doing like a three-month run of this show that we did in Chicago?
And I was like, yeah. I got nothing else to do. So my final night was February 3rd, 2002. I was in a U-Haul with all of my junk in a car on February 5th, 2002.
So you quit before knowing you were going to New York? Isn't that crazy? That is. Why did you even decide to quit? My skin felt tight.
It was time to go. Wow. Listen to your gut. Well, surely y'all have had that where you just, you know, something either feels very right or you know something feels not very right. Yeah.
Yeah, but I've never had that conundrum while one thing was a safety net, right? That's fair. I've had that sitting in Detroit going like, I got to get out of this city within hours or I'm going to wake up and be 50 and an alcoholic. Like I could just feel where it was all heading. But I wasn't giving up something fantastic or any safety or something I'd worked seven years to achieve.
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Chapter 6: What were the highlights of Jack's early career?
I was like seven and a half billion. That's not it anymore. We're well above eight billion.
Now, are you worried about what the heat of the protein powder in the bar? There's protein in there, right? It's a protein bar, right?
It is, which is unconventional for me because I don't prefer it. It is vegetable protein.
Plant-based.
Plant-based protein. So I do think it'll melt better than like, say, whey protein. That's what you're worried about.
Yeah, I just feel like I'm a little nervous about what's going to happen consistency-wise when there's protein in there.
Maybe I'll microwave one tonight to see what happens when it gets hot.
Okay.
You're right. It might turn hard, but I think it's going to get runny and yummy. You're pessimistic.
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Chapter 7: How does Jack feel about public perceptions of him?
In the case of Dakota Johnson, vice versa.
Okay. Was that a film she was in?
No, no, no. She just went blonde to brown.
Okay, great.
Yeah. And it still looks natural. You could have been born with that hair color.
Right.
Now, if you have brown skin like me and black hair like me, I could not have been born with blonde highlights or blonde hair.
I got you.
I could not have. So it is just so obvious.
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Chapter 8: What is the significance of personal relationships in Jack's life?
You're looking at me super intensely.
Well, I do have hard conversations with you that I do think a lot of people would avoid. And that's where I keep it. I keep it in my hair.
I got you.
So I'm not willing to. Well, and one time I got my hair cut. When I was really little. Well, my mom did it. And it was a mushroom cut. And it looked horrible.
Yeah, mushrooms cut. Very few people can pull off the mushroom cut.
She didn't mean to make it a mushroom cut, but that's how it turned out. Yeah. And so I just cannot, you know.
You're kind of reacting to a little bit of hair trauma.
A little, I guess, a little. And I do think if you can have long hair, I mean, not for everyone, because it's hard to maintain, I guess, like do it.
You did just bring up a grievance I have.
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