Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
Welcome, welcome, welcome to Armchair Expert. I'm Dax Shepard. I'm joined by Monica Padman. Hi. Today we have, boy, we were just saying in the fact check, if you would have told me in 95 this day was going to happen, I just wouldn't have believed you.
You would never have believed it.
Jenny Garth.
Donna Martin graduates.
She's not Donna Martin, of course, but yes, we love Donna Martin graduates. Jenny Garth is an actor, a cultural icon, and an advocate. Beverly Hills 90210.
Oh, yeah.
And we'll get into it in the episode. But if you're listening and you're under 30, you don't know how big this show is. You can't. There is no show as big as this show is currently to compare it to.
It's wild.
Also, 90210, What I Like About You, A Kind Hearted Christmas. And she has a memoir that we are going to talk about extensively called I Choose Me.
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Chapter 2: How did Jennie Garth's early life shape her career?
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Remember, there was a love triangle between her and Dylan, and she chose her.
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You were gonna bring Monica something?
Well, and you.
It's all right if it's Monica.
Just a little bit of merch. Oh, I do love merch. Yeah.
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Chapter 3: What challenges did Jennie face during her rise to fame?
They have great salads. They have great artichoke dip.
I was just thinking the sushi's great. You wouldn't think it, but the sushi's outrageous.
It's so good. At Houston's?
Yeah.
Yeah. You'll be shocked.
You're giggling. It's counterintuitive.
I mean, I don't eat sushi either, but I'm sure I can find something. You're going to find something. You're going to love it. How strict are you on your vegetarianism? Because I go with two of my friends and one of them's a vegetarian. We would always get the spinach artichoke dip. She could have that. And it's the best thing on the planet.
And then one day she came and she said, I think there's chicken stock in this. And then she asked and there was, and now she can't
Eat it. It really stinks when you find foods that you love so much. You're like, wait, this has some hidden dairy in it.
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Chapter 4: How did motherhood impact Jennie's perspective on life?
Somebody had called in a favor to him and said, can you come be a judge for me? I can't do it. He lived in New York City. He was the head of casting. So he said to his wife, yeah, let's go do it for my friend and we'll have a trip out of it. So he had brought his wife, which made it a little less weird.
Yeah.
But he did come up to us.
Scott?
His name is Randy. Oh, Randy. Randy James. And we call him Mr. Showbiz, but he's a legend. I've been with him ever since, since I was 15 years old.
That's crazy. And he says, I think you could be in showbiz. But this is a middle-aged man saying to a 15-year-old girl in a pageant, I think you'd be in showbiz. Like alarm bells are normally going off.
For sure. Yeah. My mom was right there with me and his wife was right there with it. It was actually her, Kelly's idea for him to approach me because he was in casting. Like he was always looking for the next thing.
I have a question. If you're the baby of the family and you're blonde and cute, and then you go into pageants, do you start sensing your value is your cuteness? And what does that do? Have you explored that to be the object of such affection? in that way and to be kind of getting told your values, this cuteness, how does that set your own self-esteem and identity?
It does affect it for sure. Once I moved to Hollywood and started becoming a success so young, that's when I really started to recognize it and have a lot of thoughts in my head about it.
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Chapter 5: How does Jennie Garth's independence shape her mindset?
I think I've always had it just growing up very modestly and having been independent my whole life and having to pay all of my bills and other bills. You worry about things like what if it's not there? Like I would keep clothes that I didn't need because I thought maybe someday I'll need that and maybe I won't have enough money to buy it. In your mind, when you are so self-sufficient, it's scary.
I love that you say in that mindset too, you're scanning for short-term wins because you have so much anxiety and they're not long-term wins. I can relate to this so much. Like as an actor, it's like, oh, that movie failed. Shit, I don't think I'm going to get hired again. I guess I'm going to consider these other things that I never wanted to do, but they're on the table.
So I should take them because those will go away too.
Chapter 6: What experiences led Jennie to worry about financial security?
If I don't do it, somebody else will. And I had to make money. I had to support myself and my girls. And I was accustomed to a certain kind of lifestyle. Sure, yes, we could have moved into an apartment, but I really wanted probably for myself too, because I'm really at home at my home. Like that's my place. I wanted to have that sort of security for my girls and always be able to provide it.
But the scarcity just keeps you living in fear. of not having. And I think especially with money, because I spent all those years not worrying about money. It'll come, it'll happen. It's magically appears. I don't know who does what with it, but it's all good. Then all of a sudden I was forced to really think about how am I going to do this?
I don't have that backup, even if we were sharing things equally. The feeling of having that kind of backup support was gone. And my dad had died and I felt a lot more responsibility and I just never worried about money. And then all of a sudden I started worrying about money. I started worrying about when am I going to get enough to pay?
And my business manager was really scaring the shit out of me all the time, said, you need to sell your house and actually you need to sell the ranch too. So I just built a home for my daughters and he said, you need to sell it now while the real estate is at its height because it's going to change. I was like, okay. And I didn't have a sounding board on the other side of that.
And then he said, you need to sell your ranch. And I did that too. And I regret both of those decisions because the minute you start worrying and holding on and attaching to the outcome of the money coming and going, that is when for me, it stopped coming. I like clenched my fists around it and strangled it. Yeah, yeah. With worry. And that was a real life lesson.
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Chapter 7: How does Jennie Garth find love again after her past relationships?
You got to kind of take a leap of faith.
And even like going back to my relationship with the girl's dad. Young, insecure me was worried that he would leave me or he would cheat on me. He's an actor. He's going to make out with beautiful women. And that was very difficult. And I... got really concerned about it and I made it happen.
Yeah.
And I remember him too saying at some point, you're going to make this happen. I didn't understand that. And I also kind of thought that's a little bit manipulative because you're saying I'm going to make you do something. Right. There is some element of that. Yeah. But I get it from the other perspective too. Yeah.
It's like, if I'm always in trouble for cheating or I'm always under scrutiny, then I might as well be having fun because I'm dealing with this and I'm not having that. I'm paying the price as if
Right. There was a lot of that in our relationship because I was just insecure and unstable and not connected with myself. Like most of us. Yeah. I felt like it took a long time for me. Like I didn't get there until like 50, late 40s where I really started to understand myself more and love myself to the point where I could comfort my own self and be my own anchor.
Well, I admire how much you tried and fought. Yeah. Like you did Landmark.
Did you ever do Landmark?
No, but our friend did the whole thing.
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Chapter 8: What insights does Jennie share about navigating relationships and friendships?
He loves it. He still talks about it all the time. It's like a Kool-Aid situation.
He doesn't participate anymore, but I think he was great at extracting. Of course, there's really great principles in there or it wouldn't be so successful.
I've still lived by one of them today. You have a choice in the world every day. You are a person that either loves chocolate ice cream or vanilla ice cream. Which is it? And you're like, vanilla. So to really get in touch with your internal answering a question without doubt. So I've always go back to that one too.
Yeah. My understanding of it that I like a lot is it's a lot about personal responsibility. Like the world's not happening to you.
No, you're not a victim.
Yeah. You're not a victim. It's not happening to you. It's happening for you. And how do you want to navigate it?
And while you're at it, go clean up all the shit that you've already destroyed. Yeah. Which was really beneficial. I think that helps a lot of people so much because so much happens when we, we know we've messed up something or made a mistake or didn't do something well regarding the other person's perspective or feelings. So it really does pinpoint those moments for you.
And then you go back and meet with that person, hopefully, or write them a letter or whatever. Yeah.
This is the ninth step in the program, which is like, Clean up your wreckage again so you don't have to walk around with shame because you can't afford to walk around with shame.
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