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Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Toby Stuart (on social status)

08 Oct 2025

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Full Episode

0.25 - 19.539 Dax Shepard

Wondery Plus subscribers can listen to Armchair Expert early and ad-free right now. Join Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts. Or you can listen for free wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome, welcome, welcome to Armchair Expert, experts on expert. I'm Dax Shepard, I'm joined by Monica Padman.

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19.76 - 19.98 Monica Padman

Hello.

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20 - 45.141 Dax Shepard

Today we have an organizational theorist and distinguished professor of business administration at the Haas School of Business, UC Berkeley, Toby Stewart. Toby has written a book on one of my very favorite topics, I annoyingly talk about this. The book is called Anointed, The Extraordinary Effects of Social Status in a Winner-Take-Most World. This was so fascinating, wasn't it?

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45.241 - 53.393 Monica Padman

Yeah, really interesting deep dive into status and how we're impacted by it.

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53.558 - 76.328 Dax Shepard

Yeah, I was very aware of the evolutionary benefit of status, but I didn't know about how we use it as a very useful shortcut to identify quality and competency and all these little areas of our lives where we have a very little bit of amount of information and we have to rely on something and ultimately what we will default to is status and it affects everything as well.

76.348 - 79.532 Monica Padman

Yeah, and he talks about how AI is going to,

79.512 - 80.313 Dax Shepard

Potentially.

80.333 - 82.757 Monica Padman

Mix that up a little bit, which is interesting.

82.817 - 85.141 Dax Shepard

It is. Please enjoy Toby Stewart.

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