On this week's Art Ed Radio, host Tim Bogatz sits down with bestselling author Austin Kleon! Austin is a writer, artist, and creative thinker behind Steal Like an Artist, Show Your Work, and Keep Going, and his brand-new book, Don't Call It Art: 10 Ways to Create Like a Kid Again, is out now. In this episode, Austin unpacks his deceptively simple "algebraic equation" for unlocking creative play (time + space + materials = play) and explains why losing even one of those elements is enough to make any artist feel stuck. He and Tim also explore how to fight perfectionism, why copying is actually a natural and powerful stage of creative development, and how blind contour drawings, printmaking, and collaboration can all serve as tools to silence your inner critic. For art teachers heading into summer, this conversation is essential listening. Austin and Tim discuss the power of becoming a "curious elder", approaching what your students love with genuine curiosity, not judgment, and why that openness can unlock new ideas in your own practice. Austin also shares thequestion he believes every creative person should ask themselves, makes the case for 15-minute daily habits over long uninterrupted blocks of time, and offers practical, liberating advice for teachers who want to reconnect with the artist inside them. Resources and Links Check out AustinKleon.com and his Free Friday Newsletter Learn more about the new book, Don't Call It Art Tiny Acts, Big Impacts: The Power of Creative Play for Art Teachers Dear Art Teacher, You Deserve to Be the Artist Too! 4 Summer Books to Help Art Teachers Fuel Their Creative Process Four Ways to Steal Like an Art Teacher Come join the Art of Ed Community!

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