Data Republican: She Exposed Billions In NGO Fraud, Now She’s A Target w/ Larry Elder – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 664

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What is DataRepublican’s open‑source platform and how did it expose billions in federal grant fraud?

Dr. Drew Pinsky 0:02
All right. Very interesting show today. And I I don't know I know all of you don't get to see that Charlie that the lead in video we put up, but uh Seeing Charlie Kirk, uh it actually uh makes the sort of the my s the hair on the back of my neck stand up. It's it's such a traumatic time of year here. I didn't realize that the two nine eleven and uh anniversary and the assassination of Charlie Kirk would have such sort of dramatic emotional impact, but it it really has. And uh he was saying something profound in this video, which was we need to I am going to adopt this. I don't I didn't remember that part of the interview we did a couple of years ago now, which was we need to focus on things that are good for their own sake.
Dr. Drew Pinsky 0:45
That is really a very profound statement and something that needs to be explored further. And I I I pledge that I shall do so, Charlie. Okay, today we're joined by Jenica Pounds, also known as Data Republican, uh open for open source platform that gave Americans searchable access to billions of dollars in federal grant spending. Her findings were explosive. Uh recently, there was a Nigerian chief who billed Medicare for over $30 million in fraud, suspected, alleged fraud, allegedly using the funds to build a palace. And uh her targets are now these days are anchored. angry because she is messing with their money. Follow the money, everybody. Uh she's been doxxed and harassed and now the immediate the media is diverting attention.
Dr. Drew Pinsky 1:27
She's written a new book. It is called Unelected. It releases on October 13th. Pre-record, pre-order now. Also, you can follow her on X. Uh, it is Data Republican. And then we'll be followed with Larry Elder. Of course, Larry is a talk show host, former presidential candidate. His book is As Goes California. Little did we know how prescient that title would be. He knew. I did not. He's got many. Many things. I always get depressed when I talk to Larry, but uh he talks, he spits the truth. Uh follow him on X. It is merely Larry Elder. Be back with my guest right after this. Our laws as it pertained to substances are draconian and bizarre. The psychopath started this recipe was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, BTSD, love addiction, fentanyl and heroin ridiculous.
Larry Elder 2:19
I'm a I'm a doctor for f ⁇ ' sake. Where the hell do you think I learned that?
Dr. Drew Pinsky 2:22
I'm just saying you go to treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician. I observe things about these chemicals. Let's just deal with what's real. We used to get these calls on Love Line all the time. Educate adolescents and to prevent and to treat. If you have trouble, you can't stop and you want to help stop it. I can help. I got a lot to say. I got a lot more to say.
Dr. Drew Pinsky 2:50
Jenica Pounds is a software engineer and data analyst, known online simply as at Data Republican, where you can find her on X, using open source tools to expose spending patterns inside our federal government. Her platform gave the public access to billions in federal grants, and she drew national attention after exposing bureaucratic waste. Imagine that. She is a former big A tech engineer, a Utah small business owner, she rose to prominence in 2025. After her research went viral, again to follow her at Data Republican. You can also find her Substack, also Data Republican. And the book, the book is unelected: How You Paid a Sinister Elite to Take Over America. I think uh, amongst other things, COVID has opened up the Overton window a bit to all of us to understand how true that statement is.
Dr. Drew Pinsky 3:44
Uh, Jenica is. is deaf and she has an interpreter, Teryl, with her. And Teryl will be the voice of Jennica. Uh while you hear me speaking to Jenica, it will be Teryl who you see there next to Jenica. Jenica, welcome. Yes,
Jennica Pounds 4:01
nice to meet you. Thank you so much. I'm so happy
Mickey Heller 4:03
to be here.
Dr. Drew Pinsky 4:06
So this is going to be fun. Uh first of all, let's get into the book. Tell us about
Mickey Heller 4:10
that. Oh, yes, of course. Um, honestly. You know I wrote the book at the end of the year because.
Jennica Pounds 4:23
I wanted to try to don't join the Doge group, but then That kind of blew up, you know.

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