Max Lugavere: Nutrition Expert Busts “Meat Is Bad For You PSYOP” + Viva Frei on CA Wildfires & Next Canadian PM – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 446
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What critiques does Max Lugavere have about the food pyramid?
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All right. Max is our first guest. We'll bring Viva Frye in after the bottom of the hour. Max Lugavere, as I said, is a health journalist, filmmaker. His books include Genius Foods and Genius Kitchen. And he's appeared all over the place, including on Rogan's show. His Genius Life podcast has over 65 million downloads. I suggest you check that out. And MaxLugavere.com, Max Lugavere on X and Instagram. Max, welcome to the program.
Dr. Drew, it's great to be here. Thank you so much for having me.
So the food pyramid is so clearly, I'm going to try to use some kind language here and say mistaken, misleading, that's kind language. What in the world happened? What were the adulterating influences? And how did they get it so wrong?
And so pervasive, right? I mean, I grew up with this dietary paradigm imploring me every single 24-hour cycle to consume between 6 and 11 servings of grains a day. And if you actually look at illustrated versions of the food pyramid, I mean, it was like... Not just unadulterated whole grains, you know, the kinds of grains that you might mill for yourself, but like wheat products and grain products. And lo and behold, that paradigm paved the path for the fact that now 60% of the calories that your average adult consumes comes from ultra-processed foods that are dominated typically by carbs. grains these subsidized cheap sources of calories they tend to be extremely nutrient poor this is why oftentimes you'll see them fortified with synthetic vitamins um now the food pyramid thankfully has been retired but it was always built on what was on what's referred to as nutritional epidemiology so looking at large populations studying how they eat studying how their health fares
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