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Texas Child Death: Measles, Pneumonia or Medical Malpractice? w/ Dr. Kelly Victory – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 468
Sun, 23 Mar 2025
In a bombshell interview, the parents of the unvaccinated 6-year-old Texas child who reportedly died from measles told CHD that her measles were mostly gone before she entered the ICU – but the child was intubated with a ventilator, and died soon after. Doctors who reviewed her medical records say the child developed pneumonia in her lung. Steve Kirsch alleges she actually “died from medical malpractice: wrong antibiotic prescribed for pneumonia” while others like Prof. Jeffrey S Morris (a Professor of Public Health & Preventive Medicine) say “Measles caused the pneumonia that killed her… That’s the most common mechanism by which measles kills”. 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 The CDC states that the MMR vaccine is safe and effective. Always consult your physician before making health decisions. Dr. Kelly Victory MD is the Chief of Disaster and Emergency Medicine at The Wellness Company. A board-certified trauma and emergency specialist with over 30 years of clinical experience, Dr. Kelly served as CMO for Whole Health Management, delivering on-site healthcare services for Fortune 500 companies. She holds a BS from Duke University and her MD from the University of North Carolina. Follow her at https://x.com/DrKellyVictory 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 Find out more about the brands that make this show possible and get special discounts on Dr. Drew's favorite products at https://drdrew.com/sponsors • FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at https://drdrew.com/fatty15 • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at https://drdrew.com/paleovalley • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at https://twc.health/drew 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 Portions of this program may examine countervailing views on important medical issues. Always consult your physician before making any decisions about your health. 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What are the key topics discussed in this episode?
You asked for it, and we're going to provide it. That is, of course, the great Kelly Victory coming back to join us today. There's a few interesting topics that we're going to get into. One is, of course, the measles, the measles outbreak, the measles vaccine, what you should worry about, what you should not worry about, and the bird flu as well.
And there's a new strain out there, H7N9, that has people somewhat concerned. And Kelly, of course, has been on the front lines with all of this. She joins me today, and she also joins me on the medical board for the wellness company. She is also a board-certified trauma and ER specialist. 30 years of experience. She was the CMO for Whole Health Management.
And you can follow her on X at drkellyvictory. Back with Dr. Victory right after this. Our laws as it pertains to substances are draconian and bizarre. The psychopath started this. He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction, fentanyl and heroin.
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Chapter 2: What are the risks associated with measles?
Don't look over here, measles, measles, measles, and forget about this, these other things. We are biological agents and shit happens to us.
Exactly. And so I am not trying to minimize any particular death or illness or whatever it is, but we've got to maintain some modicum of perspective on where the real risks lie. So the reality with measles, for people who are watching is that it is an extraordinarily mild viral illness in the vast majority of people. I had measles, I had mumps, okay?
Both of them, all my brothers and sisters did as well. I also had chicken pox, I did just fine. So Get that out there. And then on top of it, as I said, the reality, the harsh reality for those people who want to make this all about vaccines or vaccine hesitancy is that deaths from measles had plummeted by 98% in this country before the measles vaccine was ever made available in 1963.
So independent of how you feel about vaccines, That is the reality. What we were taught in medical school, that vaccines were responsible for plummeting the deaths from measles, simply isn't true. It was a lie.
So there's a really interesting thing that kind of, a couple things about this that interest me. But one is that one of the astonishing things that came out of COVID for me was how differently pediatricians look at patient deaths than say ER or internists like you and me. Right. They seem to lose their risk reward judgment and have zero tolerance.
They'll do anything to prevent a death, even harm thousands of kids. And they don't seem to understand when they do that.
It precisely that's spot on. And I've said many times and I'll repeat it here. The job in public health certainly is to weigh the risks and benefits of any particular intervention on the entire population, not just one single sliver. And so when I would hear people during COVID say, well, if we can save just one life, No, no, I'm sorry. That is not correct.
You cannot focus on just one at the risk of harming tens of thousands or millions of other people in the process. Unfortunately, that's not how it works, and it can't. And you are right, people lost sight of that. And pediatricians, for whatever reason, I guess because the life of a child is sacrosanct, and I understand that, but we cannot lose the basic constructs of health and public health.
Yeah, it's toxic empathy. One life is too many. That's crazy. And not that it's crazy, but it just harms many, many people when you do that. And I think it's not so much that they, I think they don't ever see death, pediatricians.
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Chapter 3: How do measles and pneumonia relate?
We got to talk about, I don't know if you saw Nick Holscher's article where he was talking about the 600% increase, 670% increase in myocarditis. Shocking. There's no shit, everybody. We got a lot more to talk about. Kelly's here. Follow her on XDR Kelly Victory. And we'll be right back with more after this.
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Chapter 4: What is the controversy surrounding the child's death?
But it is clear that the vast majority of people who are being labeled long COVID are actually vaccine injured because of the massive amount of spike protein that they still have circulating in their bodies. Which we know is in excess of what was the last study was 709 days and they're still making spike protein. And that's only because that's as long as the study went.
It's so crazy to me that we know that this pathogenic component of the virus is the spike, and yet we continue to push back only two vaccines, and only those two are the ones that produce all the spike. Why not Covaxin? Why not Novavax? Why not things that either don't produce spike or produce a whole virus? Or go ahead and make another mRNA vaccine with nucleocapsid. Why the spike?
Why the push on that? It is so nonsensical. Wow.
Yeah, I mean, that's his own whole show with the evil behind this, because the data are in. Even if you wanted to give people a pass by saying, oh, well, we didn't know then what we know now, which I think is bullshit because. Certain of us did know then, and it's not because I was a good guesser. We did know, but even if you were willing to say that, it is now 2025.
The data are in, it is irrefutable. We know the harms being done. We know the numbers. We know the vast excess mortality. We know all that is. How in the world could you still have these things out there and on the market? It's absolutely unconscionable. Right.
All right, so there's that. Oh, by the way, I was thinking, I had long COVID. And really long COVID, to my estimation, is a one to three month period of extreme fatigue and mental fogginess and maybe even some shortness of breath and things. And there's this evidence that there's a primarily temporal shrinkage in the brain during that time.
And it turns out all severe viral illnesses primarily do that. Pretty much all severe systemic viral illnesses, when they cause brain volume loss, that's where it does it. And it's interesting. I had this very intense feeling that if I worked on language or music, I would help resolve my fog, which I did. And it did.
It resolved my fog very quickly, which is the temporal regions of the brain, right? Paratemporal regions. But anyway, just an aside. I want to switch over to bird flu. Tell us about H7N9. And should we be concerned? What should be done? It's sort of in the news again. Let's get ahead of this.
Yeah, well, so just to clarify for people, the bird flu that you've been hearing about for months and months and months and the outbreak that started a couple of years ago is H5N1.
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Chapter 5: What are the current concerns about bird flu?
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No. Not anymore. I think that's probably what the documentary is about.
I just want to be grateful that you don't have to do daytime television anymore.
Excellent. There we go. Instead, we will continue here. We, as we said, let's get the guests coming up here. We've got a new show time next week. Tom Renz coming in to give us update on what he has been finding. Dr. Romeo Ganda, he has been doing research on long COVID, a long vaccine. Stephanie Van Watson's coming back for COVID, excuse me, for a fatty 15 review and salty cracker on April 10th.
And many, many more guests. I've been looking at some of these European guests that have been spitting fire, trying to see if, who speaks English and who doesn't, try to get some of them back in here. So interesting what is going on over there, and it will have reflections on how we see our own policies over here in this country. All right, anything else? Susan, Caleb, anything?
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