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Astral Codex Ten Podcast

The Psychopolitics Of Trauma

27 Jan 2024

34 min duration
6163 words
2 speakers
27 Jan 2024
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I. Everyone knows politics makes people crazy. But what kind of crazy? Which page of the DSM is it on? I'm only half joking. Psychiatrists have spent decades developing a whole catalog of ways brains can go wrong. Politics makes people's brains go wrong. Shouldn't it be in the catalog? Wouldn't it be weird if 21st century political extremists had discovered a totally new form of mental dysfunction, unrelated even by analogy to all the forms that had come before? You'll object: politics only metaphorically "makes people crazy"; we just use the word "crazy" here to mean "irrational" or "overly emotional". I'm not sure that's true. Here are some stray findings that I think deserve to be synthesized: https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/the-psychopolitics-of-trauma 

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1.263 - 25.469 Scott Alexander

Welcome to the Astral Codex X podcast for the 25th of January 2024, titled The Psychopolitics of Trauma. This is an audio version of Astral Codex X, Scott Alexander's Substack. If you like it, consider subscribing at astralcodex10.substack.com. 1. Everyone knows politics makes people crazy. But what kind of crazy? Which page of the DSM is it on? I'm only half joking.

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26.05 - 45.127 Scott Alexander

Psychiatrists have spent decades developing a whole catalogue of ways brains can go wrong. Politics makes people's brains go wrong. Shouldn't it be in the catalogue? Wouldn't it be weird if 21st century political extremists had discovered a totally new form of mental dysfunction, unrelated even by analogy to all the forms that had come before? You'll object.

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45.687 - 65.144 Scott Alexander

Politics only metaphorically makes people crazy. We just use the word crazy here to mean irrational or overly emotional. I'm not sure that's true. Here are some stray findings that I think deserve to be synthesized. This is a list. Very smart people lose basic reasoning abilities when the topic switches to politics.

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65.745 - 83.667 Scott Alexander

This isn't just a truism, it's been demonstrated in formal experiments, link in post. You can give people simple math or logic problems and confirm that they get the right answers. Then you can change the wording from five apples and eight oranges to five democrats and eight assault weapons, and these same people will flounder and say idiotic things.

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84.878 - 96.613 Scott Alexander

Paranoia and conspiracy theories, considered psychotic symptoms in individuals, are almost the norm in politics. Forget the people who believe that Biden or Trump or FEMA or whoever literally want to put them in camps.

97.354 - 112.394 Scott Alexander

The coastal elites or the patriarchy or the rich or the liberal media may all be real groups with agendas different from yours, but the way some people think about them actively plotting to dismantle everything good in the world shades into paranoia. And if you don't believe this about your side, at least consider it on the other.

113.295 - 131.817 Scott Alexander

I'm not just making fun of other people, I find myself making this mistake constantly. Politics can create such strong emotions that they impair normal social functioning. People mock college students who demand trigger warnings whenever they have to listen to a conservative speaker. But I've talked to some of these college students and they're not making it up.

131.837 - 148.014 Scott Alexander

They find listening to a politically discordant opinion is as unpleasant as, let's say, a claustrophobic person sitting in an enclosed space. If you're a right-winger who feels tempted to dismiss this result, imagine having to sit through a six-week diversity training workshop and give the answers the lecturer wants or else you'll fail.

148.796 - 164.717 Scott Alexander

Obviously, you could just fake the right answers and fly through easily, but doesn't something about this still sound profoundly enraging and invalidating on a deep level? Enraging even beyond the level of, for example, having to fake the right answers in a class on acupuncture because you're doing an undercover investigation or something.

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