Chapter 1: What warnings are given at the start of the episode?
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This is True Crime Tonight. I'm your host, Michelle Laurie, and I'm here with my producers, Matthew Tankard. Hello. And Ruby Bartzis. Hey. We're here every Sunday night from six till seven. We'll bring you the latest headlines, true crime book and documentary recommendations and interviews. This is a true crime show, though, don't forget, so it's not suitable for kids.
Coming up later this hour, we'll talk to Canadian true crime host Christy Lee. She's actually an Australian woman, but she's lived in Canada for a very long time and she podcasts about their crimes. She's going to tell us about the case of Connie Grandinetti. But up next, the latest breaking true crime news with Ruby.
In crime news this week, three people were found dead in Sydney, including a woman and two children aged four and 12. It's alleged the 47-year-old man, who's charged with domestic violence murder, was the father and full-time carer of their two sons who had severe autism. The killings are being described as some of the most confronting alleged domestic violence attacks ever seen by investigators.
A delivery driver in the UK has been charged for allegedly smuggling more than $13 million worth of cocaine in a truck carrying Kim Kardashian's skims. British police say they found 90 kilos of the drug, also confirming neither Kim or her brand are connected to the smuggling or had any involvement in the operations. And more from the UK this week.
British TV personality Katie Price says her husband Lee Andrews has been kidnapped. He vanished in Dubai after a final call with Price in which Andrews told her he was tied up and taken in a van before his phone went offline. A missing persons report has now been filed as the search for Andrews continues.
Ruby, I have to say you gave me a lot of joy when you first told me about this story just before we recorded and you asked me if I'd ever heard of a lady called Katie Price. Now, I love Katie Price. I love Pricey so much. A lot of our listeners will remember when she was Jordan, when she was a topless model. That's how she started her career.
She is the personification of the term hot mess, but I love her for that. She owns it. She is beloved. And I've seen a lot of What's the word I'm looking for? A lot of chat in British media about feeling sorry for her in this situation because most people don't believe her husband has in fact been kidnapped.
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Chapter 2: What recent true crime news stories are highlighted?
Her name's Clemmie Moody, I think. And she is it. She is smart. She is tough. And I think she thought, maybe suspected this guy, so she gave him Ā£1,000 a couple of weeks ago that he promised to invest for her and pay her back three times that amount of money within seven days or something.
Sounds awesome.
Of course. What could go wrong? Obviously, she never saw another scent of it. But this is what she's saying at the moment about the so-called kidnapping of Lee Andrews.
Lee Andrews is wanted by Interpol. Following an escalation from Hertfordshire Police, they were looking into a complaint from a former ex-girlfriend. So it's not looking good for Lee, who has not been kidnapped. He is, in fact... in hiding. We also know he's not dead and in a hood somewhere because he's managed to go online and delete some of the incriminating messages that he's sent me.
Unfortunately for him, I'd already saved and screenshotted them all.
Where she is at, I think she's pretty well placed to inform us as to what's going on with Leandra is whether or not he's been kidnapped. But what I do love is that every time this lady speaks out about this case, she is at pains to send love to Katie. She's at pains to say, Pricey, I love you.
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Chapter 3: Who is Connie Pruden Grandinetti and what happened to her?
England loves you. We don't hold you responsible. This is a bad guy. Get him out of your life.
Oh, yeah, she's just been blindsided by this man. Well, she's just got the worst taste in men.
Pricey. I mean, that's the thing. She's a hot mess.
No, no, but could you imagine you're Leandra's and you, I'm just saying, and you actually have been kidnapped.
Oh, my God, I know, right?
And this is what everyone's saying. You've got true crime tonight going, man, he sucks.
He's fine.
Meanwhile, he's held captive somewhere.
I know. And here's the man chipping in.
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Chapter 4: What were the circumstances surrounding Connie's marriage?
Yeah. Yeah, look, I think we're fine for male perspectives on this one. No worries. No, you're right. You're right, that is a very valid point. Who knows what will come of it? I think even his ex-girlfriend come out and said his... A scammer. Yeah. Well, this is the problem that makes it very difficult to believe that this fella's been kidnapped by dark forces in Dubai. Just doesn't seem logical.
We shall see.
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Ruby, I'm jealous of you because you had not seen this documentary series before. It's an absolute classic. What are you going to tell us about today?
I watched The Jinx.
Can you believe, Matthew?
Everybody was trying to give me the spoiler. Yeah.
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Chapter 5: How did the police investigate Connie's murder?
And I blocked my ears and watched it for myself and my jaw was on the floor. Good. It's crazy.
I loved it. I really did love it. You can share the spoiler with us tonight, though. If you don't want to know the spoiler, don't listen. But I feel like it's been out for years and most people do know it. And it's still worth seeing with your own eyes. Oh, definitely. Once you hear about it. How can you summarise this? You know, we've only got one show. But how do you summarise the jinx, Ruby?
Yeah, so Robert Durst, you come from some... Super rich, upper class family, but he's linked to three deaths over several decades. But he was never actually charged for any of the deaths. So his wife disappears, his best friend is murdered and his neighbor is killed and they found his body dismembered.
Well, again, I love the format of this documentary because this story is so huge and so wild. But the filmmakers have obviously thought, well, where do we start?
Chapter 6: What is the 'Mr. Big' sting operation and how was it used?
Where do we begin? And they start with the third homicide, don't they? They start with some people find some body parts in bags in the river. Yes. And then from there, this story, crazy story unfolds.
Yeah, so it turns out they've never found the head of the body that was dismembered. Still never. But it did turn out that Durst was charged with dismembering a body, but not of the murder because they didn't have the head and it could have been a gunshot wound. It could have been the neighbour that killed himself. They couldn't prove anything.
Okay, but he admitted to cutting up the body, did he? Yes, yeah. I mean, there's a day where you go, okay, I'll tell you what I'll do. I'll admit to cutting up that body. But I didn't kill it.
I didn't kill it. Just panicked.
Wow.
And honestly, like, people fell for it. Like, people just thought he was the unluckiest man in the world.
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Chapter 7: What was Corey Grandinetti's confession about?
His best friend, his neighbour, his wife, this poor guy. And, I mean, Matt and I were talking about he's kind of like... cute little old man in the documentary.
I was going to ask, before the twist comes, when you're watching it, what's your impression of him? Because when I was watching it, and I have no excuse because someone spoiled the twist for me before the end, so I'm watching it knowing everything, and I'm still watching him being like, oh, this is just a cute old man.
Yeah. Dark eyes, though. The dark eyes got me a little bit, but like... The eyes are a bit creepy, but he's like physically small too, isn't he?
Yeah, he's small and he's like, talks really... Yeah, he's eccentric.
Yeah.
He seems like a little eccentric, little rich runt of the litter of this rich family, don't you think? Is that too much? That's what he turns out to be. That's exactly what I felt. Right. And so, but then you can't imagine him having the physical or emotional strength to be just murdering people, will he? No.
But, so it turns out he was just living his life, not convicted of any of these murders until he agrees to an interview with these filmmakers that were making a film about him.
Yeah.
And he actually undoes himself in this, which sends him to life in jail.
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Chapter 8: What unresolved issues remain in Connie's case?
Let's have a listen.
I am going to go use the restroom which is right here.
So that was a recording after the filmmaker confronted Robert with some evidence that he had never seen before. He took a toilet break and didn't realise his mic was still on. So that's where he confessed and said, killed them all, of course.
Unbelievable. Again, I go back to... The unlikelihood of Robert Durst being a multiple murderer, because I think, you know, one of the motives, the most common motives for murder, money and sex. He doesn't need either. Like, he doesn't seem to be murdering people over sex, over relationship issues. He doesn't need the money. He comes from a family of billionaires, of Wall Street guys.
Just messed up. Yeah, he has his reasons variously. Well, the second lady, again, this is a bit of a spoiler, but his best friend, didn't he, wasn't he worried she was going to spill some secrets about him?
About the first murder, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, because she had some information about it. Yeah. But, you know, also in the whole documentary, he's on meth, by the way.
I did not what?
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