Backstage with Cooper & Matty Johns
Willie Mason | Part 2 | Reg Reagan, State of Origin & Acting
07 Jun 2026
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Chapter 1: What experiences did Willie Mason have with NFL teams?
Willie, on a different note, NFL. Yeah. So you had a bit of a concept with New York Giants, Oakland Raiders.
I think you did your trial at New York Jets.
Yeah, I went over there. Did you?
What year was this?
No, 2006. Oh, so you're like in the peak of your power. Yeah, fucking oath.
They asked me to come over, like the Jets and Giants. So I did their whole ā so we just finished. We just won the four nations, right? So partied a little bit after that. So I had to go in November. November. Freezing cold in New York. They flew me over. Stayed in Tribeca Grand. Had a good couple of nights there. Still fit, right? So you didn't really have to worry about much.
Decided to do the combine.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, right. I did the fucking nail to it.
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Chapter 2: How did Reg Reagan influence Willie's career?
I'm very long and I'm, you know, like very unorthodox. So I nailed all that. So I had a fucking contract with the Jets and the Giants, but couldn't get ā that started a whole rut with the dogs. So that was in 06 and I left after 07. And folks, he loved NFL and I said, folks, this is never going to come around.
They were willing to fly me over the next fucking month to New York to do ā so they didn't start until September ā to do fucking pre-season and just like not pre-season just to train and learn everything he goes by the time he goes so they were willing to put me on that squad just because of my dimensions and all that sort of shit and the and the the yeah
So why did the dogs just not release you?
So they wouldn't let me out of my contract. And the NFL was like, well, you're not that special for us to even get a lawsuit because they'll threaten, you know, the Bulldogs could threaten the NFL. They're like, fucking please.
So you're a project.
Get away. Like, who cares? And I was just like, the contract was there. Sitting in fucking Tribeca Grand. Then fucking Gaz was in New York and same as Luke O'Donnell. Then we just fucking went back.
Do you look back? We had Jesse Williams here. Jesse was telling us about when he was going for the combine and everything. He said what they do now, it's got to the point that they'll deny you sleep, they'll deny you food, make you hungry, and then they'll sit you down and give you a question and answer. He said, well, you're really strung out. They're fucking unbelievable.
How do you look back on it now, Willie? Do you regret it or just life goes on?
I said to folks, I said, mate, worst case scenario, They don't want me. And I just come back and I just sign a fucking lifetime deal with the dogs and I don't move at all.
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Chapter 3: What insights does Willie share about NRL Club Culture?
I can feel him trying to get away from rugby league.
No, no, no. You're good as gold. You're right.
Because ā State of origin, right? We're in this origin period right now. But before we talk a little bit of origin stuff, you and dad, some of your and dad's best moments were dad is Reg Reagan. And I always felt like when you first came into state of origin, 2002, was kind of when dad was in the footy show and he started Reg Reagan.
But you see all the blokes have to do media now and they get everyone in there doing like questions and whatnot. But it seemed like dad, they just gave him like access. Free fucking access, mate. Green light to everyone.
Even to the point of, like, there's the old videos of you doing Red Dragon, and they just gave you, like, a hotel key to everyone's room, and you're just swiping into, like, and Willie's on the bed in a towel, and you're like, G'day, Willie.
Yeah, like, everything. And everyone loved, because it was an awesome time in rugby league. It was. Like, the mid-2000s, like, and it's just, like, everyone was having fun. There was no fucking PC bullshit. It was just like play the game hard, go out. You'd see half the bloody NRL in the cross. You know what I mean? Like it was normal. Yeah, yeah.
It was normal to see like fucking four or five teams at Revisis on a Sunday, in at Sapphire, in the cross. Like it was just ā we were part of the fabric. Now you wouldn't see ā you wouldn't see anyone out. But Reg Reagan was fucking just part of ā The NRL. Whatever it was, just like, yeah, strange.
Any access. What are the grand final photo we're going to have? We're going to show Willie after with me, like your grand final photos. Oh, yeah. Folks, he said, oh, mate, just come in the photo. So the grand final photo, the official grand final photo, 2004, I'm in it. And it's got fitness and nutrition coordinator.
Mate, that's the way it was. It was an awesome time where everyone was like, no, everyone's just saying, oh, no, no, no, no. It was just like. Bobcat just sitting there. Bobcat again. No one cares.
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Chapter 4: What are Willie's thoughts on the State of Origin?
Like, you know what I mean? You can tell he's just a proper fan for the game. Yeah. And you have to be. Like, I love the game. I watch every minute. I just love the game. I love the product. I love all the players, the current players, and, like, where the game's going.
Oh, mate.
I appreciate all the older players. Like, I give, like, love to all blokes like you and the guys who dug the well for us to be in a position now where the game's worth billions of dollars.
It's amazing, mate.
And I love that. And I'm always about the guys who fucking dug the well for blokes like you, blokes like me. For a guy like Payne has to get, you know, one and a half mil.
That's right.
You know what I mean? So you never forget about that. You can't find it, Kirsten.
I can't. Well, it's somewhere.
You know what Trisha's like, mate?
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Chapter 5: How does Willie reflect on his acting career?
Tyson Gamble disagreed. If you throw Ponga out of that, fucking, it'd be one of the worst ever.
Talking to a funny one the other day, he's popped up last night on something, and it was a thing on Greg Bird. It shows you how times change. There you go. Greg, what do you think about the comments from ā Mal Meninga, that you've been watching too much soccer, you know, that you took a dive and then he goes, oh, is that what he said? Well, tell him to put a jersey on and just run at me.
Tell him the Aussie coach. The Aussie coach. I love the look away. He just went like. Yeah. He's taking the piss. I love. And you can see.
I love when the journey asks you. Nothing new here, boy. Yes. Yeah, true. The journo asked him, and you can see it sort of hurt him. He went, Mal said that, did he? And you're like, oh, well, Mal's not going to put on a jersey and come run at me.
Mal is more than happy to put a jersey on and run at me. I know.
Okay, Bernie. When you look back at your time in Origin, in all your career, where does Origin sit? Where in the Origin jersey?
Yeah, that's up there, mate. Is that there? Yeah, mate. It's what you dream of.
because it's all what it's it's everything what you dream of like maddie's lived that dream like oh no we're both cessnock toronto you know what i mean like you're sitting there as a 10 year old 12 year old going fuck i want to play for new south wales australia win a competition and everything we're blessed to city like now as grown-ass men and go fuck we did all that yeah it's very rare i've got a lot of gratitude and a lot of perspective and everything like that about
like my career and what I achieved. And I'm like, it's fucking cool. You sit back and you say, yeah, it was cool. It was a fun career.
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Chapter 6: What does Willie think about the connection between players?
Cause I used to try and channel in the chiefs fucking energy. Yeah. You know what I mean? Because it's like, it's a special number wearing number 10 up in Newcastle, mate.
You know how people always say now, like New South Welshmen, they don't lift like Queenslanders do. They don't really understand origin. They don't get the jersey. You, here when you speak about origin, and Dad speaks about it as well when he was playing there, and Joey plays there as well, but it sounds- Any others want to add in there? He's got a pretty good line there.
I'll throw a few others. Brett Hodgson played there. He got dragged over the side by Gordie. But does that annoy you?
Yeah, a little bit. I mean, it was just annoying. Even though we did win, a couple just didn't come out with that right frame of mind where I'm just thinking like ā You're in the front row. You know what I mean? I think I'd love to see him give Aden another crack. I don't want to see him like ā because he's been around. Like he's a 200-gamer already.
You know, like he's been around for a minute. And I think he's playing some of his best football. But he'd be one of those guys sitting back going, fuck, I'd love to have a crack at Origin. You know, like for the last three or four years being one of the top three props, I think it's been him, Tino and Payne Haas arguably.
Yeah.
And they've all had their different sort of years where Aiden's fucking been the guy on top and he'd be thinking, fuck, I could love to play Origen. I'd probably dominate that. And I think if he got another chance, he'd understand because I don't think Mitch Barnett should have started and I think Payne Haas would be his best partner. Because Payne Haas can just skittle them.
And Adam can skittle them for Payne Haas. You've got to go intent of bang, bang, bang. And I think if they choose that combination and don't pick Yowie up the front or anything like that, pick your back rollers, put Cam Murray at lock, and then fucking put Yowie on the bench somewhere so he can play business. Yowie's played his best play. I know he's captain and everything like that.
Give it to Cleary. He's going to be captain for the rest of his career anyway.
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Chapter 7: How does Willie view the role of alcohol in team bonding?
He's got the skill set of a halfback. Like, oh, if I had put ā I had mine as, like, Adan Faneuil-Blake and Yowie at front row.
back row Oluwatu and Youngie and then and then Ken Murray because I don't think he's a bench player I mean he can but like he can it's not like he's he's too small he can't cop hits like he will drive anyone into the ground it's just about balancing that forward pack big time you know and what do you do with Oluwatu now like you're like he didn't touch the ball for 14 minutes yeah
I'm like, fuck, you've got to feed that kid, man, or get on the open side. I'd love to see you just say, I played back row before, I don't give a fuck. It's not structured in origin. You get around and get the ball whenever you want. I think he's used to, in this day and age, right side ball, right side back rowers do not cross the fucking black dot.
They don't. And the hardest thing I imagine is when you have Nathan as your half because Nathan floats and he kind of is the primary ball player on both sides.
And I follow Nathan, I'm like, you're getting the ball in the first set. Here, here, early ball. Or get on the open side and get it Tino or fucking Lindsay and steamroll them. Imagine what fucking impact that would say to everyone else. No one's fucking hitting him. No one's hitting him. You've seen him in his first run. Munster just went flying.
So he's at that level now where he's the premier back row.
Yeah.
And how important it is. I need him to get the ball at least 15 times. And how important it is in origin to start well. The longer it goes, you're like, I haven't touched a ball in 10 minutes, 12 minutes. It's gone. It's gone. 13 minutes or so.
And just what Willie's talking about there is exactly why Aden needs to be picked in game two. Because after game one, Aden will be laying in bed staring at the roof going, right, okay, I didn't get the preparation right here. I wasn't doing this. I wasn't doing that. And you start to work it out. It took Joey his third go to play well at origin. His first two.
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Chapter 8: What memorable stories does Willie share about his career?
Mate, I just love the confidence on that kid. Do you know when it started? Remember last year him and Critter went at it? Big time. That was the moment I said, he thinks he belongs, and now he's fucking man-childing everyone. And we did that to Critter, and I was like ā Ooh, Critter. And Critter back then, he's the guy. Mate, he did.
They weren't really worried about Critter leaving because they had that kid there.
You can see it now, mate. Fuck. He got against Critter that night and defended him. Critter, the best defensive centre. At one point, he got the ball McLean and went, and did a number on him on the outside, and the winger hit him outside. I said, I've never seen Critter beaten like that.
And I reckon that was the start of him going, all right, if I can do that to Critter, fucking everyone's getting it. Again, I think there's no level. Four tries in your fucking test debut. Come on, mate. Some of these special kids are like Israel Folau. When Izzy Folau come on, I remember he was 70 in 2007 I was playing. I remember playing my first test with him.
We beat New Zealand 52-0 over there. Izzy's first touch, like he's played great in Origin and everything like that. Izzy's first touch comes off a cross. 35 metres out, fucking boom, boom, boom, straight through and scores. 35 metres out. I'm just like, that's not a fucking shit New Zealand side.
I didn't realise how big Casey was until I went into camp. Apart from his height, like his width, like he's got the long arms and his long limbs. Because he's sort of thin around the waist.
He's thick from there to here. He's got those fucking, he's powerful in his legs.
And you know what I love? He's just a little fresh Kiwi boy. Like he's just ā I love ā because we had like ā we did the interviews with Nathan and he said, who you got on next? I said, oh, Casey McLean. And him and Buser went, you wait till you interview. He is just the freshest. Like he'll be that rattled.
But he's a baby. He's just a baby. He's a 20-year-old baby who's absolutely just destroying the league and it's just like for fun. He's still playing for fun. And that's what I love about like ā just say when I look back on my career, everything was fun, right? I just looked at it and I'm like, everything's so joyful and like, there was no real dull moments, right?
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