Episode 4809: ICE Arrests Superintendent In Iowa; Shutdown Threatens WIC Benefits
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What historical context is provided about the church committee's role?
Now I mention the church committee because at the time it was part of a larger movement aimed at curbing abuses of power. Members of both parties wanted to prevent a repeat of Watergate. They went to great pains to make sure something like that never happened again. Passing laws and measures to claw back congressional powers and curb political influence. 50 years later now, Donald Trump has blown past many of those protections, culminating in last night's indictment of former FBI Director James Comey, only days after publicly pressuring Attorney General Pam Bondi to prosecute him. So we have to ask, is this the moment Senator Church was warning us about, that abyss from which there is no return?
How has Donald Trump's actions challenged political norms?
Senior White House official telling Politico that they are strapped in for a fight. But Democrats aren't budging either, betting that the White House is bluffing about its threats to carry out a mass firing of federal workers and hoping voters hold Republicans responsible for a shutdown. Voter registration, things like that. Why does Donald Trump, why do Republicans use Soros as such a bogeyman?
Sure. I mean, this did not start with Donald Trump and will not end with Donald Trump. I mean, this has kind of been the Charles and David Koch of the right here. And by that, I mean this is a target who Trump brings up all the time. When Trump was indicted by Alvin Bragg in 2023, his first line of attack was that Bragg was funded and handpicked by George Soros. So to some extent, it's surprising this didn't happen earlier. What's happening now after the killing of Charlie Kirk is Trump is kind of targeting the Democratic infrastructure and sort of the left wing that he sees as fomenting political violence. And lots of that, you know, as he said, he put yesterday in the Oval Office, he says he keeps hearing about George Soros.
It did not take him a long time to begin hearing that because he has become an obsession of conservative media. And it appears now this is going from talk to action, right, where we have the EOJ planning to try to find a way to bring charges against the OSF, Open Society Foundation, and maybe against George Soros himself.
There are a lot of people who are saying this is crossing the Rubicon. If you couple this with all the other moves that Donald Trump is making, I'm wondering, Tom, just to get your gut on where we stand.
Look, I mean, there have been a number of potential Rubicon crossings in the last few months. I'm not sure that this is a particularly dramatic departure from other breaks from the norm that we've seen in the past. I do think that last night's indictment in all likelihood is a bellwether of what's to come. The president has made no secret about this. That's one thing you can say about last night's indictment. It wasn't particularly surprising. The president has said from day one, he's head on the campaign trail. He wanted to go after his political opponents. And that's what he's been doing. So it would not surprise me at all if the Comey indictment is chapter one in what could be a longer book where Trump and the Justice Department do bring charges against his other opponents, many of whom he's already identified by name.
In a government shutdown situation that gives the president more power. to riff people, to do reductions in force. They've been doing that throughout the last eight months, and we've had the government open. So this is really mafia-style threats and blackmail, because there's nothing under a shutdown that empowers the president more to do that. In fact, I would argue there are provisions under shutdown that would limit their ability to do that. But this does go to show the complete thuggery of this president and his administration. Federal employees have nothing to do with the political and policy disputes we're facing, but they're threatening to take it out on them. And DeChambeau coming out. We had a feeling that he was going to shake hands there with the president, and he's first agreed him out there as he comes out of the tunnel.
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Chapters
4 chapters
1
What historical context is provided about the church committee's role?
0:00–0:51
2
How has Donald Trump's actions challenged political norms?
0:51–6:34
3
Why do Republicans use George Soros as a political target?
6:34–16:16
4
What implications does the government shutdown have for federal employees?
16:16–54:17
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