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Bannon`s War Room

Episode 5002: Press Conference On The Brown Assassination

16 Dec 2025

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Chapter 1: What evidence was presented regarding the timeline of the Brown assassination?

0.031 - 22.023 Steve Bannon

He shows him at various points in the hours before the shooting. One of them could be showing him walking in the approximate area of the building where the shooting occurred, possibly right after the shooting. I'll take you through what we've been able to go through. There are a few videos that show him walking on Cook Street, on George Street, and on Benevolent Streets in the 2 o'clock p.m.

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22.104 - 52.684 Steve Bannon

hour. At least one of these videos appears to be from a ring cam on a door of a home. At least one of the videos shows him jogging along a sidewalk at one point. I believe that video shows him jogging along a fence along a sidewalk. The timeline indicates there's a 30-minute gap where he does not have a satchel with him between 2.20 p.m. and 2.50 p.m. on that day.

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52.664 - 73.862 Steve Bannon

And at about 2.51 p.m., there are images of him carrying a satchel. The Providence police also, a couple of hours ago, released a still image of this person carrying a satchel. And you get kind of a good look at the kind of build he has and him carrying a satchel with kind of a two-tone jacket in those still photos.

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74.078 - 87.23 Steve Bannon

Also, Boris, there's one video with a timestamp showing that the shooting occurs at 4.03 p.m. on Saturday. The next video shows the person of interest walking right in front of a police car that's pulling up with its lights on.

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87.27 - 104.085 Steve Bannon

That would possibly, and again, we're not sure about this, possibly indicate that that might be right after the shooting, that the police car could be responding to the shooting. But basically, Boris, this is a series of timestamped videos. Most of them, I believe, are in the 2 o'clock p.m. Eastern Time hour.

104.065 - 124.395 Steve Bannon

And that would be a couple of hours before the shooting occurs at just after 4 o'clock p.m. on Saturday. And again, I'll go through what we've been able to see in these timestamp videos. The person of interest is shown walking along Cook Street, along George Street, along Benevolent Streets in Providence. at various points in the 2 o'clock p.m. hour.

124.715 - 139.097 Steve Bannon

At certain points, I believe there is one video that is similar to a video that was released yesterday showing him walking across a street. Most of these videos show him walking fairly casually. There is one video that shows him turning abruptly.

139.137 - 149.192 Steve Bannon

Actually, there are two videos that I saw, excuse me, one showing him turning abruptly and then jogging the other way, and another video just showing him jogging.

149.172 - 178.555 Steve Bannon

um there again we we seem to have a 30-minute gap between uh pieces of video between 2 20 p.m and 2 51 p.m um where he is uh does not appear to be carrying a satchel but then there is one image of him from 2 51 p.m on saturday where he is carrying a satchel and again there is one video with the time stamp showing that the shooting occurs at 4 03 p.m the next video shows the person of interest walking

Chapter 2: How do the videos released contribute to the investigation of the suspect?

301.204 - 327.864 Jack Posobiec

What's your alibi? And just go in every single... Okay, our cold opens cut. Jack Posobiec with us. We're going to go live to the press conference in Providence, Rhode Island. Let's take it here. Jack will jump in. That video was released just a little while ago. You can see Camille or Julie, and they can send that to you while we're recording.

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328.405 - 470.472 Jack Posobiec

Additionally, Camille and Julie are your contact to be on the press distribution list to be advised of future announcements. This time, I'll introduce Providence Police Chief Colonel Oscar Perez. Thank you, Mayor. So as the Mayor stated, we're about to show you a video that we can have the LTE Thank you, Joe. So as the mayor stated, if you don't have these videos, please let us know.

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471.053 - 492.26 Jack Posobiec

And the reason we have shown these videos, there's a purpose, right? So as you can see, they're enhanced photos. There's enhanced video footage. And so we're asking the public to ensure that they can see them. They can see here that you want to focus on the body movements, the way the person moved their arms. the body posture, the way they carry their weight.

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492.4 - 517.675 Jack Posobiec

I think those are important movement patterns that may help you identify this individual, which is extremely important. Another thing that we're going to ask the public is if you have any type of camera system, including Teslas, in your property. In this video that you just saw behind me, it all comes from the residential block of Waterman Avenue, Power, Ives, and Hope Street.

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518.026 - 533.126 Jack Posobiec

And it's those residential areas that we're asking the public to look, if you have any camera systems or any Teslas, like I mentioned, that you look at that footage and that you can reach out to us and please provide us anything that you have. And we're asking you to go back at least a week to do that.

533.287 - 551.351 Jack Posobiec

And the reason for that is because on Saturday night, the day of, we actually learned that this individual was in that neighborhood around 10.30 in the morning. We also know in this profession that many criminals will case out an area weeks and days prior. And so it's important for us to ensure that we can have you look at that and help us.

551.371 - 570.679 Jack Posobiec

And the reason for that is because our offices, our agents, are looking at terabytes of data. And we're looking for a moment that is shorter than somebody taking a breath. It's incredible hard work to do that. And so we're asking the public to assist us with that. The other thing is the tip center. We have been receiving hundreds of

571.317 - 583.747 Jack Posobiec

However, we're about close to 200 actionable tips that we're still conducting investigations on, which is incredible and is important. Again, keep in mind that this video footage is extremely important to us.

584.028 - 615.042 Jack Posobiec

And one more thing here, as a reminder, please remember that the number that we need your call is 401-272-3121, as well as the link that the FBI provided, which is FBI.gov, G-O-V, Brown University Shootings. Thank you very much. Thank you, Colonel. Now we'll hear from FBI Special Agent in Charge Ted Dox. Thank you, Mayor, and good evening. My name is Ted Dox.

Chapter 3: What details are known about the suspect's movements before the shooting?

671.346 - 691.228 Jack Posobiec

And we ask everyone to respect their privacy at this difficult time. Thank you. Thank you, Special Agent. Next, Attorney General Peter Nerone. Thank you, Mayor. I don't have a lot to add other than that, from my perspective, I think the investigation in a case like this, which is a challenging one, is going really well.

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691.789 - 717.727 Jack Posobiec

On the third floor of this building, there are dozens of agents, detectives, led by province police, prosecutors from my office. working to put together, and what you're seeing is just a portion of what they're working on right now. So they are literally, because I have seen at least part of it, the shift changes late at night. I think Rhode Islanders should take confidence in their work.

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717.787 - 740.376 Jack Posobiec

They are veterans of what they do. They're smart, they're professional, and they're getting the resources from the mayor and the governor that they need, the state police as well, to get this job done. I'm confident that they're going to be able to do that. Just need a little bit of patience. As hard as it is to say that in this really horrible context. Thank you. Thank you, General.

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740.657 - 766.112 Jack Posobiec

Governor Dan McKee for an update now. Thanks, Mayor, and straight off the top, we're just making sure that the state is supporting Providence and Brown University. And then working with the FBI as well as our state police and the Attorney General to continue to provide information to the people in the state of Rhode Island.

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766.132 - 786.349 Jack Posobiec

My information is that recently, this month, today, we met with all the university presidents in the state of Rhode Island. We know that we want to start a working group that will talk about enhancing safety issues. And you'll see shortly that we'll be doing the same thing in terms of mental health issues. And I think that's important as I'm out and about.

787.01 - 811.977 Jack Posobiec

We're hearing a great deal of anxiety coming from families, and students, and the general public. And that's one of the reasons why our state police is supported through the problem of schools with presence as school begins and school ends in support of the mayor and his efforts to support the schools. Thank you, Governor. We're also joined tonight by Brown University President Christina Paxson.

815.723 - 816.323 Ted Dox

Thank you, Mayor.

817.045 - 832.967 Christina Paxson

I want to begin by thanking the many law enforcement agencies who continue to work around the clock on this case. It's very impressive. I also want to thank the Mayor and the Governor for their continued support. The primary point that I wanted to address before we get to questions

833.403 - 858.955 Ted Dox

is that Brown is deeply committed to the safety and security and well-being of our community. And I've been deeply saddened to see people questioning that. We understand that as time goes on, there is maybe a natural instinct to assign responsibility for a tragic event like this. Anxiety and fear is very natural, but the shooter is responsible.

Chapter 4: What insights were shared about the suspect's behavior during the incident?

936.238 - 959.581 Jack Posobiec

Friday is the last day of school before winter break. Spent some time at our schools again today, as has been the case in the past. The schools in the area of Brown are having regular police presence, and because of the assistance of the Rhode Island State Police, we've been able to provide additional police presence and coverage to other schools in Providence. We thank them for that.

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961.083 - 969.857 Jack Posobiec

When I was at one of our elementary schools this morning, the faculty were having a brief meeting before kids started to arrive.

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970.073 - 996.182 Jack Posobiec

in discussion with some of the teachers I asked how they were doing one of the teachers said what I think a lot of us are feeling she said you know it's hard but I'm putting on a good face for the kids we need to be here for them and I think that's how a lot of our residents feel right now which is that we are taking very tentative steps forward but we're doing it for one another and so I do want to thank our educators at this time they're being asked

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999.166 - 1025.022 Jack Posobiec

right now for the sake of the families and the kids and at that same school there was a second grader literally skipping to the front door because he's a second grader and he doesn't know everything that's going on in this scary world right now and so the strength of the adults has allowed that little kid to skip school this morning and so I want to thank all of my fellow residents of Providence

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1030.469 - 1049.55 Jack Posobiec

There were questions yesterday, and so I'll also just give a brief update on the health status of the survivors. If folks will recall, there had been eight hospitalized, one has since been discharged. There had been nine, eight hospitalized, one has since been discharged.

1049.971 - 1075.078 Jack Posobiec

The seven that remain in the hospital, one is in critical status, five in critical but stable status, although health care providers report that they are improving. and one in stable status. Those are the seven. One in critical, five in critical but stable, one in stable status, and one discharged since the last time we made comments about their safety and recovery from the podium.

1076.741 - 1113.763 Jack Posobiec

Now we'll open it up to questions. So the question was, if I could just repeat what I stated earlier in English as far as what occurred here, the reasons for the video, and why it was a big question for the public. So, we are asking the public to watch the video that we made, so that they can see how the person walks, how they move their arms, the movements they have.

1114.023 - 1158.891 Jack Posobiec

This is very important so that they can help us identify this person. Very important. The second thing is that these videos were taken mostly in a residential area that includes Hope Street, Waterman Avenue Street, Power Street Street, Chief Perez, you said that you believe this person was in the neighborhood at 10.30, clarifying who he was at 10.30 the morning of the shooting.

1159.242 - 1162.546 Steve Bannon

what do you believe he was doing there at that time?

Chapter 5: How are law enforcement agencies collaborating in the investigation?

1302.876 - 1319.052 Jack Posobiec

And the purpose of this press conference is to ensure that the public can see those videos showing movements, like I stated earlier, the way a person walks, the way they carry their weight. That's the importance. And so our video, sorry, the second video that we showed was the one that we needed to show the public.

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1319.252 - 1327.402 Ted Dox

Just in terms of hammers inside and outside the engineering building, do you Are those working at all? And if so, why not really some of those videos?

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1327.422 - 1332.031 Jack Posobiec

So the video that we showed you came from inside the building, and that's all we have at the moment. That's all we have at this moment.

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1332.051 - 1340.627 Ted Dox

Inside the engineering building, though? I'm sorry? From the outside. I'm sorry? So do you have video from inside the engineering building?

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1340.647 - 1366.291 Jack Posobiec

Yes, both inside and outside. I'm sorry, just outside. That's all we have, not inside. That was released already. That was the outside of the building. We released that. Let me just jump here and clarify. So there is, for those of you who have been with us before, I understand not a lot of you have been, there is video inside the building. There are cameras inside the building.

1366.311 - 1389.685 Jack Posobiec

What we have released to you are videos of this person of interest. So I want to be clear, because later on there may be other videos that get released in the course of a prosecution. Likely will be in some way. They show things like chaos after the shooting. What they don't show is this person of interest. And so that's why we haven't released those videos.

1390.185 - 1408.928 Jack Posobiec

What you do have are videos from a camera outside of the Brown building and other cameras from around the neighborhood that the good men and women in law enforcement located and put together in this montage. To your question, Chris, there are two versions of that video, but the bottom line is it's

1409.347 - 1422.082 Jack Posobiec

As I understand it, they depict the same thing, and number one, and number two, the agencies are working very, very well together, as I think the special agent in charge would agree. Attorney General, we've got to follow up, and then we're going here.

1422.102 - 1427.448 Ted Dox

Just to clarify, there's no clear video of the suspect inside the enemy building?

Chapter 6: What measures are being taken to ensure community safety following the shooting?

1532.227 - 1551.155 Jack Posobiec

How does a multi-million dollar school not have a bunch of cameras in the hallway? So let me try to explain that. So as President Paxson knows there was a major addition put on that building within the last five years or so. That is a modern building attached to a much older one in the back.

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1551.715 - 1572.976 Jack Posobiec

So it doesn't come as a surprise to me, at least, that there are cameras in the newer part of the building. And there is video footage, okay? So there's the back part of the building, old part, and front part, new part. The shooting occurs in the old part towards the back, up towards Oak Street. In that older part of the building, there are fewer, if any, cameras in that location.

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1573.337 - 1598.495 Jack Posobiec

I imagine because it's an older building. So as students are fleeing the area of the shooting into the new part of the building, there are cameras in that brand new building that show that chaos. But the only video of the presumed, anticipated, suspected, however you want to define a person of interest, You have it.

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1599.256 - 1613.853 Jack Posobiec

We would release it if we thought it would be helpful in identifying this subject because we are relying on the press and public to help get us there. There would be no reason for us to hold it back. We're looking for the best- Dan, got a follow-up.

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1613.873 - 1632.133 Jack Posobiec

Attorney General, thank you for explaining that because it really clarifies it, although I'm sure some people watching would think a multi-million dollar school with a huge endowment could afford new cameras in an old building. That's my statement. Here's my question. If he's casing that area, Colonel, like you said, he had an intended target, which speaks to the motive.

1632.153 - 1641.721 Jack Posobiec

Did he have a target to kill one of the two people that were killed? I'm still investigating it then, and it's something that I'm trying to get the answers as well.

1641.741 - 1665.469 Oscar Perez

Patrick? For President Paxson, have you two related, have you reviewed any communications to Brown before the shooting that revealed any kind of threat, any kind to anyone at Brown, and then since I believe some webpages for students or faculty have been taken down. Is that a response to any external threats to anyone in the community?

1666.911 - 1692.7 Christina Paxson

We have been working very closely with law enforcement to provide them with all of the internal to Brown information that they need to do this investigation. It's their investigation. They're the professionals. So we're providing information. We're not in the job of reviewing it for them. I know nothing about webpages being taken down as part of this. It's the first time I've heard of it.

1692.78 - 1702.25 Oscar Perez

In the back. You want people to feel safe. Can you say this person of interest is no longer in Providence, no longer in Rhode Island? Are they out of the state in any sense at all?

Chapter 7: What updates were provided about the health status of the victims?

1800.07 - 1820.323 Jack Posobiec

Can you tell us where you believe he may be? Is he in the state? Is he in the area? So that question was asked as well. So Colonel, I'll let you answer that. Yeah, we'll continue to investigate that. That's not, listen, we're looking for the same message as the mayor stated. We haven't received any credible info as far as any other calls of that nature.

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But I'll tell you that we have enhanced our presence in the city and we're using every resource we have. And every call that comes in, we respond to it immediately.

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Are you working with any neighboring states?

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1832.564 - 1834.768 Jack Posobiec

It's Pat, so we're working our way across the area. Pat?

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In a case involving a hit-and-run accident in the vicinity of Brown University that was litigated by the Office of Attorney General Nerone in 2023, Brown University Police Detective John Repka stated that the university maintains several thousand video surveillance cameras and license plate readers on Brown University campus and surrounding campus.

1854.644 - 1868.476 Jack Posobiec

Now, this is an addition, obviously, to the Department of Police data center. Attorney General Nerone, your department litigated that case, essentially giving your department a thorough understanding of the landscape. Why isn't there more video or metadata, and were those cameras all operational?

1868.496 - 1888.205 Jack Posobiec

Yeah, I can't speak to what was operational or wasn't, but I will say this, that I've answered this question a few times today, and I'll try to do my best to answer it again. So somebody reported, it might be in the Globe, that there are 800 cameras or so on the campus. It might be in the Globe. 1,200. 1,200. But this building is on the very edge of the campus.

1889.207 - 1904.553 Jack Posobiec

If you know, I know that building well. I have two sons who went. spent a good chunk of their lives there. It's at the very edge of the campus. It's not in the heartland of the campus. It's not the green. And there are several greens. It's not any of the three greens, as I remember them. So it's right on the edge of the campus.

1904.573 - 1928.971 Jack Posobiec

And where the shooting took place is at the very edge of that building on the edge of the campus. And so, as those of you who know Providence know, you are very quickly into a residential neighborhood, which is why the video footage you're seeing of this defendant's, excuse me, wrong word, person of interest movements, excuse me, are pre and post shooting are in that neighborhood.

Chapter 8: What are the implications of the investigation for the university community?

1999.862 - 2018.498 Jack Posobiec

I'm not asking you. I'm asking you. There is no mass surveillance. First of all, I'm not sure what mass surveillance means, Pat, but by any standard, I wouldn't describe it as mass surveillance by Brown University. There are cameras that they have in place in an effort to protect their students.

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2019.199 - 2029.472 Jack Posobiec

And unfortunately here, given location, given age of building, we just don't have additional video footage. Trust me, I wish we did.

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2029.84 - 2049.219 Jack Posobiec

But we don't, and so we're doing everything we can to find additional footage from the neighborhoods, reinvent his path of travel, and continue to canvass for either people who may have seen him, encountered him, or who have video evidence that can supplement what you already have. John.

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2049.479 - 2072.78 Oscar Perez

I have a question for Egypt. Egypt, so this happened Saturday night, and then last night, You have an MIT professor. I know the question was asked, but this has to work. What we see on this video is seemingly someone very cautious, almost like a professional, kind of like the DC pipe bomber that is circling several times. What information do you have?

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2073.421 - 2082.39 Oscar Perez

That MIT Jewish professor was basically executed. Do you have any intelligence of how that person was operating yet?

2082.41 - 2103.522 Jack Posobiec

You know, it's interesting. Colonel Noble reached out to me very early. their lead on that particular incident. He made sure that if there's any intelligence, any information in which is connected to what we have here, that they would share that. At this time, there seems to be no connection as it relates to that particular incident.

2103.542 - 2128.353 Oscar Perez

As an FBI agent, what do you see in that individual who's walking? For example, he's walking with his arms behind his back. And I've seen people talk about that's That's not like a young kid on a campus. That scene where he's walking, that's something more either European or Middle Eastern. What do you see so far in this video that we see of this suspect? Or the person I'm interested in?

2128.373 - 2143.429 Jack Posobiec

I think the Colonel articulated in a sense what they see. I'd say from an FBI perspective, we have individuals that can hypothesize on that, our behavioral analysis unit, and those type of individuals. I would say I would be, I think, getting a little ahead of things.

2143.73 - 2162.491 Jack Posobiec

If I give you kind of an inference of what I see in that particular behavior, it can mean a lot of things to be truly transparent with you. And to get into the mind of an individual that would commit such a heinous act, that's a place in which I don't want to go right now. I'm not sure what was going on in that particular individual's head at that time.

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