Episode 5114: The Last Stand Is In Texas; Passing The SAVE Act
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What was the significance of Tulsi Gabbard's call with the FBI team?
The day after the search of the Fulton County elections facility, Tulsi Gabbard facilitated a call between the president and the FBI team working on the investigation. That's according to three people with knowledge of that meeting. The Times writes this. The president addressed the agents on speakerphone, asking them questions as well as praising and thanking them for their work on the inquiry. In a letter to lawmakers who were pressing for more details, Gabbard denied that Trump asked questions or issued directives during the call. The paper also pointed to the unprecedented nature of the meeting. Rather than going to senior department or FBI officials, Trump spoke directly to the frontline agents doing the granular work of a politically sensitive investigation, which he has a large personal stake.
A White House spokesperson defended President's Georgia investigation on the whole, saying he has pledged to secure America's elections. Those 2020 elections were secure, of course, but the Justice Department, the FBI, have declined to comment.
Well, it's worth remembering that at least in a couple of these battleground states, the votes were run by Republicans. Georgia was a Republican run state. Arizona was a Republican run state. And the Republican governors and secretaries of state of those states said, yeah, you lost. And it didn't seem to stop him then.
How did Trump interact with frontline agents during the Georgia investigation?
So the idea that some if Republicans run the election, somehow there won't be, you know, fraud. And his mind is belied by the fact that Republicans didn't have fraud and did run the elections and he lost. And look, it's really it's an important thing what he said yesterday, because he told my colleagues in The New York Times in recent interview that he regretted not ordering the National Guard to seize voting machines in 2020 in states that he lost. This is a proposal brought to him in the Oval Office. by Mike Flynn, his former national security advisor, and some others, saying he should effectively declare martial law in some of these states that he lost, seize the voting machines, and rerun the elections until he won, basically.
And the fact that he says he now regrets that indicates where his head is at heading into these midterms. I'm actually less concerned with the FBI's role in that than I am with ICE. We've seen what the FBI can do right now. They can, after the fact, open an investigation. I have no idea what their predication is for doing this, but they can muck things up after the fact. They're an investigative agency. They don't really respond. ICE is now the largest funded law enforcement agency in the history of the world. There is a game plan that draws upon a very horrible period of our nation's history. I'm thinking of the Jim Crow era in which law enforcement was used to discourage people from going to the polls.
Can anyone look at what's happening in Minnesota and tell me that that is not a very real possibility for November? Before January 6th, there was a massive failure of imagination, I think singling out a couple of pieces. I didn't see people predicting storming the Capitol. So there was a lot of failure of imagination that was widespread across the political class before January 6th. That is something that had not happened before. Now it's happened. It has happened. And so when that phrase Trump being Trump, which used to mean, oh, all bluster, no action. I think it means something else now. If someone says, oh, that's just being Trump, Trump being Trump. I say, yeah, absolutely. It is Trump being Trump and Trump being Trump as he tries to steal elections.
And he talks about it right in front of our faces. It's there's nothing hidden about it. And so, yeah, that phrase Trump being Trump doesn't mean Trump. what it used to mean. This is not a drill. In it, you write in part, quote, a president who doesn't care about the law, who commands an obedient Congress and is supported by a radicalized base of tens of millions of people who believe his lies represents a threat to the next election.
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Chapters
7 chapters
1
What was the significance of Tulsi Gabbard's call with the FBI team?
0:00–1:17
2
How did Trump interact with frontline agents during the Georgia investigation?
1:17–7:43
3
What were the implications of Trump's comments on the National Guard and voting machines?
7:43–9:44
4
What concerns are raised about ICE's role in upcoming elections?
9:44–18:02
5
How does the SAVE Act propose to change election security?
18:02–39:25
6
What are the proposed requirements for voting under the SAVE Act?
39:25–47:13
7
How does the podcast discuss the impact of illegal immigration on elections?
47:13–55:09
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