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WarRoom Battleground EP 861: “Trad Catholic Inc.” In Shock As “Pope” Leo Confirms He’s Just As Non-Catholic As “Pope” Francis
01 Oct 2025
Chapter 1: What shocking claim did Pope Leo make about his beliefs?
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Good evening, Hanwell here at the helm on Steve Bannon's War Room. Packed, packed show for you guys today. Coming up, we'll be discussing the Louisiana defrocked priest who has just been arrested for raping a 10-year-old boy, disabled boy, in a wheelchair with autism. We will be discussing President Trump's invocation of St. Michael the Archangel, what that might mean.
We'll also be discussing a senior appointment in the Vatican for the Pontifical Academy of Fine Arts, where Pope Leo has appointed a strong LGBT community. TQ. Advocate. But that's not only. Where he's undermining. Catholic doctrine. It's taking place right now. Liz, you have the latest on this astonishing interview that Pope Leo gave to EW10 and EW10 correspondent. It was a spontaneous thing.
Before we break it down, why don't we have a quick look at exactly what Pope Leo said in his own words.
With Cardinal Cupich giving an award to Senator Durbin, some people of faith are having a hard time with understanding this because he is pro or rather he's for legalized abortion. How would you help people of faith right now decipher that, feel about that, and how do you feel about that? I'm not terribly familiar with the particular case.
I think that it's very important to look at the overall work that a senator has done during, if I'm not mistaken, 40 years of service in the United States Senate. I understand the difficulty and the tensions, but I think as I myself have spoken in the past, it's important to look at many issues that are related to what is the teaching of the church.
Someone who says I'm against abortion but says I'm in favor of the death penalty is not really pro-life. So someone who says that I'm against abortion, but I'm in agreement with the inhuman treatment of immigrants who are in the United States, I don't know if that's pro-life. So they're very complex issues. I don't know if anyone has all the truth on them.
I'm going to come to Frank in just a moment for his response, but let's start with you, Liz. This is absolutely astonishing on so many different levels. Here you have a man...
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Chapter 2: How is the Catholic Church reacting to Pope Leo's appointment of LGBT advocates?
Remember, this is a favorite word of Leo's, dialogue. And for example, in my opinion, abortion and illegal immigration aren't the same because unborn children in the womb cannot dialogue on their behalf. Unborn helpless children in the womb are murdered by suction or scalpel mutilation or poisoning. They can't dialogue.
The illegal immigrants are not only given free lawyers, they're given a paid trip back to their home country. And unborn children in the womb aren't given a jury of their peers like people in death penalty cases. Unborn children can't appeal their sentence. They can't protest. They don't have public defenders to advocate for them. Frankly, it is the...
It's un-Catholic for Leo to even attempt to make these weasley UN arguments, these weasley satanic arguments by Joe Bernadine, who not only pushed this agenda, but was a sexual predator. You know, we have to start talking about truth to power. And look, Leo walked right into it. He has nobody to blame himself. I mean, the timing on this is quite interesting.
Had he waited a few hours, this award was pulled ultimately because of the firestorm that it created in America. Had Leo waited a few more hours, it would have been a moot point. But look,
Leo is a carbon copy... But he didn't wait. He rushed in and he left this. He put a flag down. I mean, of all the liberal progressive... you know, national Catholic report type platitudes he didn't come out with, it's probably the only one in his response there, was that, you know, you guys, you pro-life guys only care about babies before they're born and you don't care about them at the moment.
That's the only thing he didn't say going through his list. Frank Walker, let me ask you now this. Because you spend a lot of time – in fact, I think you are the point, Guy, that I would certainly highlight who goes through religiously what all of the Catholic media are up to and their breaks and their analysis on this.
Tell me one thing, because there had been a couple of people coming out, Bishop Strickland – who was removed by Francis.
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Chapter 3: What is the significance of President Trump's invocation of St. Michael?
Let's see whether in Texas, I think it was Texas, wasn't it? Let's see whether Leo gives him his diocese back. But you had a couple of people coming out and going quite heavily on Cardinal Cupich for this award for Senator Dick Durbin.
Yeah.
And he had a lot of trad ink in the media doing so as well. And then Leo comes out. This is the guy we're supposed to be not judging. This is the guy we're supposed to be waiting to see how the papacy unfolds. Give him time to get his feet under his head. He comes out and gives Cardinal Cupic the most vociferous... full-throated endorsement on everything.
What are the people who've just been criticising exactly the same declarations against Cardinal Cupic going to do now that Poblia has come out and repeated it? They're in somewhat of a quandary now, right?
Well, they haven't had a hard time crying about it. They're saying things like disgusting, disgraceful.
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Chapter 4: How does the episode address the recent arrest of a defrocked priest?
They've all turned. All of a sudden, they've turned on Leo. And I think that hopefully they're going to stick with that. They're going to keep telling the truth. But it's amazing how far that Leo has fallen because they painted him as a Catholic. They painted him as sort of like, I know, a Pope Benedict Catholic. And now...
Perhaps it's a mistake on his part, perhaps it's bad politics, but because this happened in conjunction with this Cardinal Cupich, where they made such a strong defense of Catholicism, At the same time, it puts him right there with Cardinal Cupich, who is one of the most despised bishops among Catholics and in the church.
I mean, there's others that are maybe despised almost as much as despicable as Cardinal Cupich. But he's the one that is the one who'll step out there and do what he did with Cardinal Durbin. Remember, I mean, with Senator Durbin. When the USCCB was having their meeting, and they're trying to make pro-life a preeminent part of their position, he fought them tooth and nail.
And so now here he is, this pope, who's supposed to be more Catholic, and he's actually turning out to be. I don't think that it's so much a mistake. I think it's purposeful. I think he's angry about what they've done with Cupich. I think he is a Cupich. And he's teaming up with him, trying to throw some clout, put some weight behind what Cupich is in the face of all of this Catholic pushback.
So I think that from now on, people are going to know that Leo is... And all these traditional writers have to know that Leo is a Cupich. He's the Cupich Pope. He's completely on the same position. And he's different than Francis in that he has said... Doctrine can be changed by attitudes.
And here he is now, a week later from that interview, saying that, I'm not really sure, but this is, you're not pro-life. I'm not really sure about illegal aliens, but you're not pro-life if you're for the death penalty. That's not church teaching. That's against Aquinas himself. The death penalty protects lives. He never considered that. This is a disgrace. But on that point, on that point,
On that point, Frank Walker, what exactly does he mean when he says that Americans should search together for the truth on ethical issues?
Well, I know Cardinal Supers responded with a big long letter because Dick Durbin has pulled out of that event at the same time. Everything's happening at once. So he pulled out of the event. In a two-page response, Cardinal Supers ends with saying, well, we need more synodality. We need more...
We need some of that synonality in order to make Leo's change of doctrine and the attitudes that must precipitate it happen. Obviously, you people need more synonality. What we need is Catholic leadership somewhere in the church. We need a leader, a pope, who actually expresses. I mean, doctrine hasn't disappeared. There's still a billion people out there that believe it.
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Chapter 5: What are the implications of Pope Leo's statements on pro-life issues?
Frank Walker, tell me about this case. And is it really as horrific as it sounds?
Yes, it is quite horrific. I question whether, I mean, how uncommon these kinds of things are, actually. But when you read about it, it's just awful. It's this priest, Father Mark Francis Ford. He's no longer a priest, but he... He had a group founded to help disabilities.
And through this disability group, and this is the kind of thing that you've seen before with Jane Vanier and Jimmy Savile, people who have groups of children that they care about and they have this sort of to protect their proclivity. So, yeah, when he was 10 years old, he met this boy and he had sex with this boy. He's...
You know, he has a spinal, a deteriorating spinal condition, and he's also somewhat autistic. He is classified as a juvenile permanently. Now he's 31 years old. I think for 16 years, he molested this boy. And somewhere along the line in this article, it says that he left the priesthood, but they don't say why. And then he went into the government.
I'm not sure if he... I don't think he was a priest necessarily when he went into the government. He started with the Democrat Blanco government in New Orleans, and then with Bobby Jindal's government when he was governor. So... It didn't make any difference. And he's supposedly part Indian. And so he moved into helping both, you know, indigenous people and and disabled children.
But if you look at the picture of him, it's quite striking because he needs to be extradited from, I think, from Indiana to New Orleans. But the look on his face, he does not look sorry. He looks like he's got such, it's sort of a frightening attitude to see the look of this guy's face.
He's charged with first degree rape, second degree kidnapping, sexual battery, and indecent behavior with a juvenile. And this is all in the context of this big New Orleans bankruptcy case. And they're replacing, and now they've $230 million they've offered in bankruptcy. And we talked about this before at your show.
But they're replacing Archbishop Amon, who has a history of accusations in his seminary that are also gruesome. The bishop, the archbishop, they're being replaced with Bishop Cecchio, who is a McCarrick, another McCarrick bishop who Leo has put in place. You know, more evidence.
This guy ran the Pontifical North American College, which is like the bishop-making college, where 10% of the students had AIDS. And he worked together with McCarrick, and there's just a lot of stuff on Churchill. He's not going to be any good, and it's all part of the same thing.
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Chapter 6: How does the discussion highlight the divide within the Catholic Church?
Frank, moving on, I know we've got a break coming up in just a couple of minutes, but I do want you to, if you can, just tell us what happened in my beloved... There are so many horror stories, but we're not going to have time for the one in Switzerland, sadly. But my beloved homeland, there's a guy at a riot in Birmingham who was saying... Who the F is Allah?
Now, you might not approve of the language. You might not approve of the swearing.
Chapter 7: What concerns are raised about the new head of the Pontifical Academy of Fine Arts?
You might not approve of being deliberately provocative towards another religion. But what has happened to him in the UK, Frank Walker?
Well, he's been convicted of insulting Islam, which is sort of like what they call blasphemy laws. So he was in, he was, they said he was a leader of the rally. He's a big burly guy. He's a paver, a tarmacker, they said. And he, but he, you know, there are people throwing things. There are people waving sticks and hurling, they called missiles at people.
He's only, he only was yelling at the police. And this, who the F is Allah is recorded. And this is what they got him on because that is illegal. I don't know if it would work the other way because You can't pray in front of a board chair even silently in the UK. I think that these laws are all one-sided.
Yeah, and he was very sorry in the court, but I wonder, I wish that his testimony could actually say what he thought, because what are they supposed to do? And my question is, why are these things happening in this country? I know it's because of the crime, but I think they're looking and they're saying, we have to yell at the police because we have no justice. And they're Islamizing our country.
And they can see now what it's going to become. And I think it's like this stage back from a war.
So the background of this is that Nathan Poole, who's, as you say, a 32-year-old tarmac layer, but that is to say a blue-collar worker, regular guy, has been jailed for 30 months. Folks, he has to be a guy, a working guy, protesting. in Birmingham, which has a huge ethnic minority majority, has been sent to prison for 30 months because he said, who the F is Allah?
That's where we are in the UK now. It is a Sharia state. That's it. If you are implementing using the secular laws of the land to protect and defend the integrity of Islam, that makes it a Sharia state in all but name because they have the arithmetic, the Muslims have the arithmetic, and the Catholics and the Christians and the Evangelicals in the UK are so few in number now.
We don't even create a ripple when it comes to legislation. There are no blasphemy laws to protect Christians when you have these great...
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Chapter 8: How does the episode conclude regarding the future of the Catholic Church?
art installations and we'll talk about that just after this break but you have these art installations which are clearly blasphemous clearly outrageous and designed to generate social media engagement because of their provocations towards figures that Christians esteem in holding great reverence like Jesus Christ like his blessed mother the Virgin Mary and there are no blasphemy laws
to protect Christians there. Blasphemy laws, yes, to protect Islam from offense. That is the modern-day United Kingdom.
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