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WarRoom Battleground EP 921: Meet The New Boss, Same As The Old Boss: “Pope Leo” Continues Francis’s Radical Pro-INVASION Agenda

07 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main theme of WarRoom Battleground EP 921?

2.917 - 24.547 Frank Walker

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

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24.567 - 48.066 Unknown

And where do people like that go to share the big lie? Mega media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

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55.115 - 87.97 Stephen K. Bannon

Hanwell here at the helm on Steve Bannon's War Room. Today's theme. Wednesday, 7th of January. Had to do a quick check. They're slightly confused as to what year we're in. Anno Domini, 2026. First time saying that on the Battleground show. Joined with our regular Wednesday contributors, Frank Walker, Jenny Holland. Guys, I hope you had a nice Christmas and relaxing start to the new year.

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91.612 - 99.323 Frank Walker

Yeah, you too. I think you were busy. I think you caught a cold and you're out in the pouring rain from what I heard.

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99.343 - 132.841 Stephen K. Bannon

I was. That's right. It was the Christmas Eve show that we did live from St. Peter's. I did get a cold. And I was sort of down for it. I think everyone here in Italy, literally everybody... seemed to come down with something over the New Year's festivities. Okay, lots to get on with the show today. I think the first thing I'd like to discuss is with you, Frank Walker.

134.044 - 169.605 Stephen K. Bannon

This somewhat, I think, illustrates the point that Canon 2.12 War Room, Chris Jackson, that we were making right from the start in open contradiction to our brothers over at Trad Inc., that Pope Leo was going to be some kind of heaven-sent second Ratzinger. We've got the extraordinary consistory starting today. It's going on for today and tomorrow.

169.625 - 195.598 Stephen K. Bannon

I think they had a session early on in this morning and then they're having two three-hour sessions or something like that tomorrow. Frank, why don't you just explain what Canon 212 is looking for to come out of this consistory. But before that, for our non-Catholic audience, explain what a consistory is. What is a consistory? What is the Sacred College of Cardinals?

196.574 - 212.88 Frank Walker

I think that the College of Cardinals doesn't go all the way back to the beginning of the church. It goes back more like a thousand years. And this is a meeting for them to get together. They're supposed to be advisors of the Pope. There didn't used to be this many of them. There's a lot of them now.

213.481 - 232.602 Frank Walker

In fact, there's more than I think there is even required or permitted by canon law, from what I understand. And so a consistory is just a meeting of the cardinals with the Pope. And what they are having today is an extraordinary consistory, which is something they convened for some special, important, and grave reason.

Chapter 2: How does the new Pope Leo differ from Pope Francis?

249.079 - 259.968 Frank Walker

And they were hoping that Leo would be more open to meeting with them. And he said, well, I'm all about listening. And so that's what I'll do. And that's what they were sort of expecting. And that's what's happening today.

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261.329 - 277.003 Stephen K. Bannon

So just give a bit of background on that. What was meant when people said that the late, very unlamented Francis didn't want to sit down and talk to his cardinals? What was meant by that?

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277.81 - 299.397 Frank Walker

Well, Francis Church and Leo's Church are the same kind of church. They're not really Catholic. They're just sort of this new thing. And they've always said that they're all about listening. But whenever I hear that, whenever I hear that, I always think about how it's not really about listening. And so the first constituent in 2013, I think—

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299.377 - 319.251 Frank Walker

And Francis had a speaker, Cardinal Casper, who came and he told everybody that people who are in a state of mortal sin, divorced and remarried should be permitted to go to communion. And it created quite a stir. And after that, Francis sort of gave up on the whole idea of meeting with cardinals again.

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319.531 - 341.544 Frank Walker

He created this organization, the Gang of Nine, we call it, to reinvent the Curia, and they would meet, and Francis would meet with them, and he would meet selectively with cardinals, but he would never have a consistent, until 2022 he had one, And it was basically, there wasn't much listening to it. The document they were discussing had already been written, so they didn't really have any input.

341.964 - 361.733 Frank Walker

Francis was never really about input from the Cardinals. He was about telling the Cardinals what to do. He was about control. And they had resented that, and they hoped that Leo was going to be different, so he convoked this consistory, and it was supposed to be different. But like you say, I agree with you, it's sort of a trad-inc hope that was not realized.

362.793 - 389.982 Stephen K. Bannon

It was a Trad Inc hoax. So one of the criticisms people made about Francis was that whilst he talked about collegiality, he actually governed like, well, he is, let's be honest, in terms of the Catholic Church's governance structure, the Pope is, any Pope is an absolute monarch. Whether they want to be more collaborative or not is up to their own personal preference.

389.962 - 420.863 Stephen K. Bannon

leadership, charism, but all of the functions and responsibilities and powers for the governance of the universal church are basically in the person of the Pope. And of course, the Pope delegates because it's a worldwide church. But he is really answerable only to Christ on Judgment Day. So the other thing I wanted to quickly ask you, Frank Walker, is that staying on the theme of...

421.096 - 443.168 Stephen K. Bannon

Pope Francis, one of the criticisms was that not only was he not remotely interested in what his cardinals had to say, he actually didn't want them physically getting together and talking amongst themselves because he feared the possibility that they were going to lobby against him, that they were going to resist some of his reforms.

Chapter 3: What is the significance of the extraordinary consistory?

570.528 - 593.467 Frank Walker

We really don't know what they're going to discuss. They had some pre-reading. They had like Francis's opening manifesto, which is sort of his liberation theology church, and they have – the new constitution of the church that was released by the gang of nine, now the gang of six, that rewrote the constitution of the church. These things are already produced.

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593.487 - 619.331 Frank Walker

They're just supposed to study them. And we just found out today that Cardinal Timothy Radcliffe, who is a gay activist, like a Father James Martin type of guy, going back a long way, he's 80 or so now, is gonna be giving the meditation. So it's much like when Francis did this and Cardinal Casper gave his evil speech, Radcliffe is going to give a speech. They're going to work in a small group.

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619.391 - 637.234 Frank Walker

Radcliffe just said yesterday he wants lady deacons. He wants women's ordination. And maybe that's what they'll be discussing. I think these synods are just a way of camouflaging their movement towards some nefarious goal that they can't admit. So that's what they'll be working on. But we don't know what that's going to be right now.

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638.21 - 666.158 Stephen K. Bannon

Just for reference to our largely American audience, Cardinal Radcliffe was leader as a world, what's the title? The head of the Dominican order, the Franciscan, the Dominican mendicant order. I forget his precise title as the head of that, but this was the order founded 800 years ago by St. Dominic really to protect the orthodoxy in doctrine and dogma

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666.138 - 694.151 Stephen K. Bannon

It was founded, I think, against the algebensian heresy in the south of France. And to see what that has come... Francis appointed this guy as a cardinal over... I think it was over the voting age of the conclave voting age of 80. So it was a symbolic manoeuvre. And as you say, he's a heterodox figure. Just quickly on this point, Frank, just give me... Just give me 60 seconds, right?

695.012 - 717.643 Stephen K. Bannon

Firstly, I just want to recap what you said as a difference in leadership style between Pope Leo and Pope Francis. Francis was absolutely terrified of resistance in the church because he was doing a lot of his more scandalous reforms. He was claiming was being requested by the bishops, by the cardinals, by the laity. We've since...

717.623 - 745.712 Stephen K. Bannon

found out, thanks to some sterling work by Diane Montagna, that that was all literally lies. It was literally made up and misrepresented questionnaires. But Francis was absolutely terrified of his, even though he did govern as an absolute monarch, an absolute dictator, as is his right as Pope, in terms of governance. He was terrified that his Cardinals would get together.

746.774 - 772.151 Stephen K. Bannon

So I think it's fair to synthesise what you're saying, Frank Walker. Leo's leadership style is appearing to be different in terms of the superficial, cosmetic... OK, I don't have anything to fear from these Cardinals. After all... They elected him on the fourth ballot in record time. So let them come together for two days. They're going to be in Rome anyway for the Epiphany, a lot of them.

772.211 - 789.965 Stephen K. Bannon

Let them come together. Let them talk over the water cooler. Let them produce whatever statements they want to say. But it's all very much still Leo is in charge. What I quickly want to ask you, just give me 60 seconds on this, Frank. What... conclusions do you draw?

Chapter 4: What is a consistory and its role in the Catholic Church?

851.279 - 873.063 Frank Walker

Catholic men treat each other with respect. They share the same doctrine. No, your doctrine doesn't have a place here. What you're supposed to do is exactly what you're told. You submit your report, and then we'll consider it. You know, Leo, his difference from Francis is only superficial, but his goals are exactly the same and his methods. are exactly the same.

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873.444 - 886.98 Frank Walker

And so I think that's the lesson to be drawn here from this. The fact that it's so, like you said, they're going to be there anyway. He's just tossing this out to them. It's interesting that Bishop Barron, I noticed, he actually scolded Leo just the other day.

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887 - 905.67 Frank Walker

I know we, you know, Bishop Barron, you wouldn't expect him to actually sort of condemn Leo and condemn synodality, but I know he's associated with the Trump, with the White House these days. But that to me seems to be a bit of a shift, but I don't understand why. I know why he did it now, because this is a pushing synodality. That's what this is all about.

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905.951 - 913.393 Frank Walker

Like Stephen Cox said, the blogger is sanitizing synodality by bringing the cardinals in and making it look more legitimate.

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914.47 - 935.398 Stephen K. Bannon

We'll certainly keep our beady eyes fixed on this one, Frank Walker, and I'm sure you will as well at Canon 212. We're going to go in a moment to Jenny to hear of an astonishing story from Scotland, from Edinburgh, the capital of Scotland, to do with an act of desecration on, I think it was Christmas Eve. But before that...

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1024.259 - 1047.338 Stephen K. Bannon

OK, Jenny, when I saw this story, I was absolutely horrified. And what interested me more than anything was the statement that the Scottish police came out and put out immediately in real time, which seems to be somewhat contradicted by the actual statement. sort of facts on the ground coming out of this church of St. Patrick's in Edinburgh.

Chapter 5: How did Pope Francis' leadership style affect the Church?

1171.747 - 1192.592 Stephen K. Bannon

um comes down and says that that what the guy was very aggressive and rude and really angry at priests and the church now jenny that seems to me to be a first time a first time witness account describing these events is pretty intentional to me.

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1192.612 - 1219.002 Stephen K. Bannon

I repeat that he was really angry at priests and the church and the police statement that they put out said it was not believed to be a hate crime targeted at Catholics and the incident is understood to have been mental health related. Well, you know, And as you point out, the desecration of the relics was in the Lady Chapel.

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1219.443 - 1249.594 Stephen K. Bannon

So we see here desecration of the baby Jesus and then violence expressed towards the Virgin Mary. Two things that I think serious Catholics will start collecting dots and wonder if there is something beyond being mentally unhinged here. Yes. Representations of Christ and of the Virgin Mary immediately come under contact, under attack by the diabolic, always and everywhere.

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1251.517 - 1272.981 Stephen K. Bannon

Yeah, one other thing, Ben. The guy says, Jenny, let me just bring this one to you. And they also said that threats were made against them. And someone said, you're finished here. So this seems to be pretty, as I say, pretty, that's right, pretty intentional. That's right. It was on the Easter vigil.

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1274.263 - 1294.38 Stephen K. Bannon

I don't understand how that the statement that the church puts out thanking people for their prayers and concern with regard to the Christmas Eve desecration. I don't understand why the statement says that it's not sectarian in nature and that it requires spiritual medicine.

1295.187 - 1295.527 Jenny Holland

Yes.

1296.168 - 1297.71 Stephen K. Bannon

That seems to be a slight contradiction to me.

1298.471 - 1330.965 Jenny Holland

Yeah, and when I interrupted you, I was going to say about the threats made against them on Easter. Of course, it doesn't say by whom. No, I completely agree with you. There's something very sinister about this in that the specifics of the attack and the kind of coded language being used is... raises a lot of suspicions as to what possibly this could be if it's not sectarian.

1331.045 - 1352.716 Jenny Holland

OK, notice that that's a carefully chosen word. So it's not they're not saying it was a Protestant attack or a Muslim attack, but then it was obviously an attack and it was obviously religiously motivated. Otherwise, why the baby Jesus and why the Virgin Mary's chapel? Now, I mean, who knows?

Chapter 6: What are the implications of the recent Episcopal appointments?

1578.8 - 1600.124 Frank Walker

And in woke, you do find Satanism. There's a story just last week about a beautiful monastery with an amazing tabernacle. And the only thing that happened was they stole the Blessed Sacrament from the tabernacle. They didn't break anything. Well, why do they want the Blessed Sacrament? This is a common thing. Satanists do attack priests. They do hate priests and they do hate churches.

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1600.485 - 1626.072 Frank Walker

And they do exist, not just in Edinburgh, not just among the woke movement, but among the halls of power in Hollywood. Behind the scenes is the religion of the anti-church. And their whole point is to attack the religion of God. And that's what I thought right away. I agree with you. If you could make one holiday wish... Would you wish to be free from your credit card and other debt?

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Chapter 7: What shocking events occurred during Christmas Eve at a church in Edinburgh?

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1902.941 - 1930.45 Stephen K. Bannon

Well, since before we took our... Christmas break, there have been some developments in terms of ecclesiastical appointments, both to New York, which I think we might have mentioned just in December, but also to the primatial sea, the Catholic churches, the Catholic hierarchies, primatial sea in England and Wales, which is Westminster.

1930.43 - 1972.288 Stephen K. Bannon

And our second Ratzinger, the great hope to restore conservatism and traditionism to the Catholic Church, Pope Leo has appointed two guys who are very much, I wouldn't even say in his image, they're in Francis' image. Frank Walker, let's start off with the new Archbishop of Westminster I. A guy called Richard Moth, who likened Mary, Jesus, and Joseph to migrants arriving in Britain.

1972.508 - 1974.212 Stephen K. Bannon

Tell us more about this character.

1975.654 - 2000.749 Frank Walker

Well, he was the head of the military diocese for a while. He... He has not, unlike the new Bishop of New York, he's a little bit more comfortable on his feet. And he was up there, I saw a little bit of his talk next to the outgoing Archbishop Nichols, Cardinal Nichols, and they were just sitting together. And yeah, he's all about social justice.

2001.25 - 2026.021 Frank Walker

He's all about migrants, which is the same thing that they have in New York. The migrants in the UK, When you talk about migrants from the church, your job is to scold all the peoples down and to stop them resisting the full Islamization of the UK. In the United States, they're all about migrants, and the new guy is about migrants. But in that case, it's all about Trump and the deportations.

Chapter 8: What does the recent study reveal about Sunday trading laws and mortality rates?

2171.677 - 2198.187 Stephen K. Bannon

The hierarchies, by the way, I'm not talking about the actual faithful. It went down very well with the faithful. Let's just come back, however, to the Archbishop-elect Moth, who spoke... And the importance, the priority of welcoming the stranger and refer to the enriching contribution that people born in countries across the world bring to the UK.

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2198.848 - 2221.003 Stephen K. Bannon

Well, you know, if anyone who checks out my Getter profile will see I'm chock-block full of illustrations of the cultural enrichment that's taking place right across continental Europe. Tell me something, because the late unlamented Pope Francis went on and on and on and on and on and on and on about...

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2221.827 - 2248.78 Stephen K. Bannon

priests parish priests especially needing to have the um to have the smell of the sheep about them and suggesting that that in his fantasy in his fantasy in the idea of the church that he hated so much you had these stern rigid doctrinaire parish priests leaning over the lecterns the pulpits every sunday sort of read sort of reading chapter and verse um

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2248.76 - 2273.116 Stephen K. Bannon

on moral theology to parishioners, to which I can only open brackets. I can only add, if only, let me know where these guys are because I'm like a beeline there. And his counter to that, Frank Walker, was that he wanted parish priests to be more pastoral and that they had to have the smell of the sheep. He wanted pastors, shepherds who had the smell of the sheep.

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2273.557 - 2297.599 Stephen K. Bannon

Tell me, because I talk to Catholics often, back in my beloved homeland quite a bit. And they're all universally very concerned about how the invasion, the third world invasion, is actually ruining the social fabric right across the UK. Where is the smell of the sheep in these two Episcopal appointments?

2298.507 - 2326.978 Frank Walker

It's in what they call liberation theology. It's this theology that makes the peoples, the people as this idol that is God himself. In fact, and that's why this new Archbishop of Westminster is so warm and welcoming. His personality is so friendly. I find it somewhat repulsive, but I call it, I call it on Andrew 12, the joy face. He has the joy face really well.

2326.958 - 2351.447 Frank Walker

Just recently, Bishop Hicks, who not only did his old chancellor get gay married, but his vicar general was at the wedding, and Pope Leo was asked about this new chancellor, and he said, no comment. Well, there's a new talk with him out there after his flopped talk that he gave with Cardinal Dolan when he was introduced, and he talks about how when he was in Latin America—

2351.427 - 2376.622 Frank Walker

Everybody in the old church has to work in Latin America, and they have to all be funneled through Chicago and Cardinal Cupich somehow. But when this Archbishop Hicks was in El Salvador, it's the peoples that changed him. The peoples transformed him by being among them. They were poor, but they were united to Christ. They were just like superhuman peoples. That's what the smell of the sheep is.

2377.043 - 2401.132 Frank Walker

It's not the actual people. It's not the people that work hard. It's not the people that are trying to help each other and love each other. And it's not the people who are being abused by their own Nazi rulers, like in the UK that Tommy Robinson is fighting for. It's not them. It's this peoples that enables the communism where you have totalitarians rule over all the peoples.

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