Cancel Culture & Credibility With Rei Clarke

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Interesting. And then has anyone ever submitted tea to you about me? No. Really? Really. Really. This person said this, but then it, like, got back to this person. Yeah.

83.404 - 90.916 Rei Clarke

Yeah. So it's kind of like... No, I've never heard tea about you. Never. It's more so, like, this and this went down. Okay.

130.269 - 149.404 Rei Clarke

So. And I see that. Right. So it's, I can't just go based off of one thing. Right. Right. So if I'm like, okay, well, yeah, she said something. Cause somebody even brought it up to me. Like, how can you defend her? She called like Isaac's haircut a thug. Okay. Well, but what else has she done to improve from that? Like, Clearly, she's not racist. That's what people love to say.

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But I definitely think it was implicit bias, though, educating myself because I didn't know what implicit bias was. So I couldn't know what I don't know. Right. So I feel like I've done a lot of work to sort of eliminate that or at least be more self-aware. Right. And so I wish that more people would give me the chance to talk about it. But now we have this episode, I guess.

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Yeah.

172.19 - 183.942 Kail Lowry

Um, that was fair though. Like I, when people did judge me for it and even when they do now, like I hope to always have a conversation about it because I do feel like I've learned from it, but I could see why someone hates me for that.

184.123 - 186.445 Rei Clarke

Yeah. But aside from that, no.

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Like never. That's exciting though. It is. It's like a passion project turned into like your job, you know?

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Yeah.

263.145 - 278.653 Kail Lowry

What was the first thing that you remember like talking about? Janelle. Oh, it started with teen mom. You only, you don't only do teen mom though, do you? No. Oh my gosh. Okay. What did she do? Well, it was, she might say, we need to, we need to talk about this for view. She might say that.

279.695 - 295.375 Rei Clarke

First of all, I started because the bitch got divorced from the man that was like ruining her life, ruining her life. So that's what I was talking about. Okay. Um, so does she want to say that she started my, my ladder up? Sure.

363.121 - 380.703 Rei Clarke

But it wasn't until we started conversing more. Right. And- I started to see more of her true self come out that I was slowly pushing myself back. And then everything else kind of just fell into place. That's so crazy. It's like a domino effect.

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I don't watch housewives. I know very little about it, but have you talked to some of the girls on there, the women? I've talked to a few of the housewives on there.

388.75 - 401.809 Rei Clarke

Yeah. Like they're very chill, but you can tell because they've been doing this for so long and I'm so upset that I'm late to the game, but You can tell that they are very careful with what they say, like how they say it.

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You don't have to worry about that with the cast of Teen Mom. I think I have a hard time with reality TV because I was on it. So I kind of know like, okay, that was probably set up or like that was sort of like.

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It was more like produced.

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Do you think that when you talk to someone from a show that it sort of changes your perception of them or is it hit or missed? Does it depend on the person? It depends, but I definitely do try to keep an open mind.

520.234 - 538.978 Rei Clarke

Right. So if I didn't like you, like, look, I even, for example, I did hit up Janelle, right? And I was like, Hey, I'm going to be in Vegas on, on these days for these days. I still was talking shit about her, but I was like, but do you want, like, do you want to meet up? Like, do you want to meet up? Maybe I can hear your perspective. Right. She didn't respond. I said, okay, fuck it.

540.521 - 559.812 Kail Lowry

I'm going to keep talking my shit. I read something. I want to say it was like last week and it was that Americans were consuming more news. And broadcast via TikTok than they were any other platform. And I find that so interesting because I'm like, it's so bite size on TikTok, which is really nice. Like we don't have to turn on the news to like learn it. Yeah.

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But how do you get some of your information that you know to be factual? Because I think that. sometimes sources can be weird because you're like, okay, this person was close to this person. Can I really depend on what they're saying?

569.811 - 584.856 Rei Clarke

No, when you come into my DMs and you're telling me some shit, like you need to back it up. Okay. You're not just going to report on any, no, like I'm never going to say now if it's like a, a rumor, right? I'm like, yo, like word on the street, right? This, this was tea.

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655.203 - 671.963 Kail Lowry

Well, this is why it's like, okay, for you to be a T page, like I understand, like you have a job to do, you're reporting on real things. I get that and I fully respect it and I have no problems with it. The problem I have is when you take someone who you do give like a good, not you specifically, but just like reporters, broadcasters, journalists in general,

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giving people, okay, well, we know that this is a credible source. But when you really dig into the nitty gritty of all of it, it's like, oh, wow, this goes levels and levels and levels deep. Be careful because you truly don't know and who you think you can trust. Maybe you necessarily, you don't, you're not necessarily able to trust him.

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But so how do you build like the credibility and the trust between who is consuming your content and what you're saying? Because I feel like there have definitely been some, I hate to call them T-pages. but essentially T pages, like I've seen them and they're just, it's strictly opinions. It's not really factual. It's like, they're sort of like putting together.

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I was saying some shit. I did not tell my team I was doing that. I just did it. And I was supposed to take a break from TikTok. I don't know. Like, I was supposed to take, like, a one-day break. And I just posted that video. And I didn't warn anyone. I just did it.

791.937 - 793.902 Rei Clarke

But listen, I was like, this is...

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Real time.

794.723 - 813.164 Rei Clarke

Yeah. Like this is real time. Now, if some other shit is popping off, I'll let y'all know later. Right. But for now, stay tuned. I think I'm always but I see I'm always somebody that like goes to the source. Like, do you have good success with that, though? Yeah, because listen, my aunt Tina, like my aunt Tina was like basically like another mom to me. Right.

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Like she helped raise me and her idioms are like top tier. But she was always like, did you hear from the horse's mouth? Okay. Did you hear it from them? No. Okay. Let's, let's move on with life.

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incredibly stressful when you're in front of them and you're around them you believe what they're saying and they sound credible and they sound like oh wow like okay maybe I do need to look at this a different way and then you take a step back from them and you're like oh no I hate them again because you realize who they are and it's it's so interesting to be around people like that in person because you you want to believe them well I feel like those kind of people are dangerous they're so dangerous because you it's sort of like not quite narcissism because they believe what they're saying on that note

959.746 - 979.787 Rei Clarke

I'm going to share something. So my therapist told me, because I had told her, why am I always dealt a shitty hand? Why am I always, I mean, my wife excluded, why am I always with, or why do these people always fucking find me? Why am I always- Why do I attract this? Right. What am I fucking doing so I know not to fucking do it?

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And she told me, she says, listen, there was a project that happened with prisoners, okay? Mm-hmm. They had women that had gone through trauma, abuse, rape, all of that, walk through a hallway. They also had women that had literally lived behind the white picket fence, no problem, also walk through. The prisoners could tell every single time.

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that a woman that had trauma passed by every single time. And when they asked them, how did you know? They were like, I don't know. It's something in their brain chemistry that they are still trying to figure out. It is not that you seek them. It is that they seek you.

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I think if people teach their kids to know, and I'm not saying it will never happen to them, but I think growing up when you instill some level of confidence in your children and start it from a really young age, They sort of know their worth.