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Chapter 1: What makes Payton Tolle one of the best personalities in baseball?
Yeah, there should be some passion. This doesn't have to be boring.
You don't get bored by baseball.
Okay, one thing the game needs is more people like you. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You.
You. You. You. You. You. You.
You. You. You. You. You. You. when I said there's nobody I'd rather talk to on the planet than dot, dot, dot. But you know, anytime Peyton Tully comes on, it's a fact. By the way, you are, I don't, I'm trying to be better about posting more on Instagram, like the posts. Yeah. It's like, I always felt like that was a commitment. I don't do it a lot. I'll do the stories. You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, yeah. Hey, you're on Instagram, right? A little, a dabble. Okay, but you know, it's a commitment to go with a post. Absolutely. Yeah. But you made the post, like you made a, you are one of my posts, my permanent posts. Yeah. When I pulled the clip, we said, this is, you almost said this is the best podcast ever. You came so close.
You cut it off after like the last letter. Yeah. Anyway. Gotta be careful. Again, you know, there's. This is getting up there for a podcast for me. This is one of my favorites. Okay. All right. I got to be careful because at some point, hopefully like 10 years down the road, I can get asked that question. Then I'll come up with a firm answer.
I don't want you to put yourself in a bad... I want to put you in only the best position to succeed. Uh... So, in case people don't know, you're in Major League Camp for the first time. First time. Right? And I remember seeing you, and as we sit here in the beautiful Fenway South, and I remember seeing you walk. It's like the walk. It's like such a weird walk.
And I'm going to try to explain this for people in Arizona who's listening to this. There's the Major League Clubhouse, but there's a walkway which everyone, the minor leaguers have to go from the parking lot past the Major League Clubhouse, past the weight room, past the batting cages to, I've never even been in that locker room, but it's not nearly as nice as the Major League Club, right?
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Chapter 2: What insights does Payton share about his experiences in Major League Camp?
Uh, than last year. I can't remember. Yeah. Yeah. I'm thinking more post draft maybe, but, um, it's, yeah, it's definitely still longer. Um, I'm trying to think what else has happened.
The same truck. Well, it's, you know, you've pitched in a postseason major league game.
Yeah, that stuff's happened.
You're in a major league clubhouse. You're like, all of this. Yeah. But it is like, I want you to take a breath, and as we sit here, just understand, like, man, good for you. Yeah. As I told Roman the other day, good for you.
Yeah, yeah. I'm here to build up.
Yeah. Do you feel that? Yeah, for sure. I think it's... in the off season, kick back, have a beer with dad, and it's like, yeah, this was a really cool year, and it's something that I'll be proud of for the rest of my life, but it's also something that moving forward, it just gave me that, oh, I want more of it.
So, yeah, it's nice to, it's good to sit back and I try to, like, one thing that I've learned about, like, mental skills stuff is acknowledging, like, where you're at and with, like, I don't want to sit here and say it's not cool because it's really cool. Like, it's, I'm happy to be where I'm at. It's like, it's, Like, I got boys on both sides here, and I'm never going to, you know, be different.
But it's like, it's different.
Well, this is the goal, man. Like, when you make that aforementioned walk, you walk past and you're like, okay, I hope next year, I don't know if you ever did this. Absolutely. But you said, I want to take a left-hand turn into that clubhouse.
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Chapter 3: How does Payton Tolle feel about the pressure of performing in front of audiences?
You know, absolutely. It was kind of an everyday thing, like walking in. It's like... I never stepped foot in there. It's like I'm kind of superstitious. Like I'm never going to go. You had never been in there before. We had gone in there after draft for a couple of meetings. But like other than that, I'm like, I don't want to be in there unless I deserve to be in there. Okay.
So, you know, you can see who you can walk next to coming into the field or something like that. But it's, you know, it's an honor to be here and to be in this position and just excited to get going.
All right. So I believe every word you just said. but it also could be classified as a very cliche answer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But here's the difference. I actually believe that you mean it. Like, this isn't like there's a difference between, like, having an answer where it comes out as a cliche and actually meaning it. Yeah. And thinking about, well, how can I form these words?
Like, your words were sincere.
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I think that sometimes, like, the cliche stuff comes out, but it's like... I try to be as genuine as possible with how I say, just like the words that I use because like I don't want to. I don't want to be somebody else. Well, we talked about this.
No, no, we talked about this. I said, I think, and again, I said this to you. We were just talking about it the other day. I said, hey, we're interviewing Roman Anthony. I said, we just mentioned you, and that's what we were talking about. I said, because I was saying to Roman, I give him congratulations about being genuine and being available and not being afraid to be himself.
And I said, you know, about the whole, like, media training and how sometimes that, you know, That might get in people's head. But I gave you as an example of it's okay, man. Like, it's okay. You're smart enough to be yourself, say the right things, be a good teammate.
Yeah. Yeah. It's a thing. You just got to let it loose sometimes. It's like... Sometimes I'm like, man, I wish that I could say curse words to let it out. You can't. It's like, ah. I think last year, I was like, we were talking about walkout songs for a book. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, yeah, I want to use a pretty badass one. I was like, oh. I hope I didn't say anything wrong.
It's like, it's good. Like, that's who I am, and I'm not going to apologize for it.
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Chapter 4: What are the differences between minor league and major league training?
And maybe it's that maybe it's, Oh my goodness. We're at eight o'clock in the morning. I, I have people, I'm just trying to change and people are asking me for interview, whatever it is. I don't know.
Yeah. I mean, I think that I go back to a year ago and to compare the two and it's like, it's, there's the attention to detail is a whole lot higher, especially like whenever I comes to like my prep, uh,
They are very, the weights coaches, Joe and Matt are very hands-on of like, so like my hip was tight the other day, so now we're going to, next couple weeks, kind of open up the hips, strengthen those, and where last year is like, start stretch at 8.30, I'm gonna get here at 8.15, throw down some breakfast and then get going.
Where this year it's like, okay, we start at 9.30, let's get here at 8, have breakfast, have time to prep, have time to stretch. There's a lot more preparation that goes into every day.
But you were a valued commodity before, but everybody is like... attention.
Yeah, I mean, it's a little bit... I mean, you go from... Do you have any idea what the number... I mean, it's got to be close to... How many guys are here? 200 minor league guys here. Oh, yeah. Somewhere around there, and then now to, I don't know, a locker room full of guys. You can be a lot more individualistic.
Yeah. Is that a word? Yeah. Individualistic? It absolutely is a word. By the way, you dropped a word at Winter Weekend. Automata Pia. Oh, my goodness.
I haven't used that one since the third grade.
Oh, right? Right, Caleb?
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Chapter 5: How does Payton Tolle prepare for live pitching?
There's a whole thing for it.
Well, thank you for letting me spend two hours looking for it. It's, well, speaking of, speaking of, this is an awesome segue. Speaking of social media, there was also that thing you had. It was right before you probably left of you, like, throwing a pitch and screaming.
Yeah, yeah. It was 8.30 in the morning in a facility that had roughly four people inside of it. Velo Day needed to get the juices flowing, get the CNS fired up, so... Yeah, I mean, I think I maybe got a little bit carried away, but I think the funniest thing about it was they videoed the whole thing, and Lane Ramsey, who we're working with up there, and he's like, hey, can I post this?
I'm like... Well, sure, the Pitching Works account has maybe 100 followers. Yeah, that's fine. And then next thing I know, I'm on an MLB Network interview, and they're showing it to me.
It's like, oh, no. Oh, really? Did you know?
Did you know how to take it off? They gave it to me. It was like in the intro video. I was like, oh, this is – it went bananas. It's fun. I feel like it – I guess it's a good show.
It is a good show. Listen, it's genuine. This is what we're talking about.
Yeah, yeah. Barrett Morgan is one of the individuals in that. He's on that side, too. Oh, he is? Yeah, yeah, Barrett Morgan. Okay, Barrett Morgan. All right, all right. Yeah, I told him that I wasn't ever going to shout him out in an interview, but here we are. Sorry, sorry. We can get him on. Yeah, well... No?
I'll diss him now and be like, you don't want to do that, but he's a good kid. Wait, so what did he scream, too?
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Chapter 6: What does Payton think about the importance of mental preparation in baseball?
Yeah, I missed that.
Yeah, you were up. So that's another great. Wow. Look at you. Circle of life. Yeah.
That was another great example of how far you've come. Hopefully never put myself in that position again. Well, so in case people don't know, as I said, you minor leaguer, right? You're done for the day. You're done for the day. Like, hey, let's go catch a ball game. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go to the monster. Yeah.
Let's go hang out up there. Who were you with? It was me, Brandon Clark, Blake Ida, Chase Braig. Probably Alex Bouchard was there, too. Okay, okay.
And Bregman's first home run as a Red Sox goes up.
It was coming up, and I said, holy crap, boys, that's coming at us. Holy crap, boys, that's coming at me. And it landed about...
an arm's length away, hit my hand, hit the guy next to me, bounced off him, hit me in the chest, bobble, bobble, get side-swiped by a guy trying to get it, bops out of my hands on the floor, and it was a clear lack of effort on my part because I didn't drop to the floor to get it, but... It was quite embarrassing. Did anyone know who you were?
I mean, Andrew Parker took to Twitter about 30 seconds later. It was like, Red Sox prospect Payton Dooley drops Alex Barkley.
Oh, really?
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Chapter 7: How does Payton Tolle balance personal goals with team expectations?
Well, not really, but whatever. He was trying to make the team. Right, right. And so I said, well, did you feel like at this moment that you had a chance to make the team, that you shouldn't make the team? He was like, I've felt this way ever since I was drafted. Like, that's sort of been always the thing. Like, yeah, of course.
Like, if I didn't feel that way, and obviously you had success last year at the major league level, but I don't know what that dynamic is like now where is it every day? Okay, like, I'm going to try to make the team. I'm going to try to make the team. I'm going to try to make the team. And not, you know, which is good, but it's also exhausting. Right, yeah.
I mean, I think for me it's like I'm working – as if like it's like there's golly this is gonna be a crazy pull but like uh fight like you're the third monkey trying to get on the ark and it's starting to rain and i'm trying to i'm trying to work work hard to do what i can today uh because like i can't control what happens in two months um like i'm gonna have to work
with what I can do right now and then stack days on top of another. And, you know, whatever happens, happens. They're going to take the best 26 guys that we have. And like, if I put myself in a good position, then sure, like hopefully I am one of the 26. But it's also like I got to work, work like I'm not. So work like I'm like going every day to be that 26 man.
Did you make that up?
I saw it on a shirt once. I wish, I wish. And I think I kind of messed up the quote, but like, it's pretty close. It was close enough. I got that. I think the point was there.
By the way, am I clear here? Am I clear here? I feel like, am I all good here?
you're great all right okay am i good yeah you're good yeah yeah yeah i i walked by and uh your manager i said up by the way so i've been paranoid about it so some nose issues um but my way oh my goodness that was so good the third monkey getting on the ark A little biblical reference for you. Oh, it touches everything. I mean, so we're in the process of making baseballs and boring t-shirts.
If I don't make that t-shirt, I'm not trying.
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Chapter 8: What are Payton's thoughts on being genuine in sports media?
So we're doing this. I can't even remember if we were doing it when I talked to you, the Best Shape of My Life Club, which is like picking one thing by opening day. And you can pick something, or maybe you already did. But my dad, my 92-year-old dad, said he wanted to do it. So he's like, I'm not eating a donut. But then he said, a cruller isn't a donut. You know what a cruller is? No.
It's like the long donut. It's a long... Oh, yeah, like a long john is what I call it. Is that what it is? Yeah, that's what I call it. All right, all right. You said it's not a donut like that. It's a donut.
What do you mean?
He's got a point. I mean, he's doing really well for 92.
He shouldn't change it.
I'm not for debate. Well, listen, you've been so generous with your time. I really appreciate it. And I hope that you are walking away from this saying this is maybe one of the top three podcasts I've ever done. I'll give you top three.
So are you giving Baseball Isn't Boring a top three podcast in baseball?
Top one.
Top one.
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