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Begin Again with Davina McCall

Begin Again Moments: Family Relationships

01 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What insights does Seann Walsh share about his childhood and relationship with his dad?

0.031 - 29.866 Davina McCall

I did this show and it touched on, on mine and my dad's relationship. I, this is true. I met him to, what is it now? I met him to, I met him to almost like a journalist, really. I met him to ask him some questions that, that, that would maybe help my story in the show. What, you know, Just his story, his story with the drug.

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30.669 - 37.53 Davina McCall

And it was there that I discovered that he hadn't taken it in a couple of years.

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37.797 - 40.14 Seann Walsh

But that's mad that you didn't know that.

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40.16 - 43.743 Davina McCall

No, we weren't really communicating at that point.

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43.783 - 45.005 Seann Walsh

So this brought you back together?

45.325 - 65.847 Davina McCall

Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It did, yeah. I mean, we're still quite distant, me and my dad, but we do talk. He texts me after the QPR game. But we're just not that kind of family. We're not, you know... We never had... And I think this goes with something. We never had a table at home. You know, the thing of... One of the things...

68.425 - 84.49 Seann Walsh

You know, can I just say something? That is so... That tells me so much. Right, right. Like, a table is a basic family need. Right. What are you going to sit round... Absolutely.

84.51 - 87.234 Davina McCall

..to play Uno? Exactly.

87.314 - 87.454 Seann Walsh

Right?

Chapter 2: How do small family rituals impact childhood development?

167.983 - 174.895 Seann Walsh

They're coming into adulthood. They need a negotiation. And you take them to the negotiating table.

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174.955 - 175.977 Davina McCall

That's fantastic.

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175.997 - 193.476 Seann Walsh

And you sit down and you go, okay, tell me what you want. Okay, the reason why I'm having a problem with that is because of this. Or I've got to get up really early in the morning. I don't want to come and pick you up at 3 o'clock in the morning. Can we negotiate on the time? You know what I mean? Yeah, that's fantastic. I'm having that. They negotiate a bit. I negotiate a bit. They feel heard.

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193.977 - 199.423 Seann Walsh

I feel heard. No argument. No leaving the room and going, I hate you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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199.603 - 201.345 Davina McCall

I've got that to come, but I'm using that.

201.365 - 202.986 Seann Walsh

That's why you've got a table now as well.

203.006 - 206.55 Davina McCall

Yeah, absolutely. For later negotiating. Exactly, yeah.

206.53 - 216.104 Seann Walsh

So, like, how do you create a safe environment for you in relationships when you're growing up? Like, that's really hard.

216.945 - 240.908 Davina McCall

Well, I think, you know, no boundaries is something that I've kind of had to... I mean, we'll get to that, I'm sure, but not drinking was so important in creating boundaries and kind of pathways of existing.

Chapter 3: What role do boundaries play in family relationships?

688.277 - 708.953 Alain De Botton

Often it has to do with a deep sense that you're unworthy and that you're not a good person. The more you feel, I'm not good, there's something wrong with me, the more you'll constantly be reading insult everywhere. Everyone's laughing at me. Yes. People are getting at me, et cetera. So, again, huge compassion. This comes from not really having been seen, loved, honored, et cetera.

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709.314 - 730.266 Alain De Botton

And then you make it worse for yourself because you're permanently seeing yourself as a good – fitting, plausible candidate for victimization, and then you feel victimized by things that go wrong. The tube train left the station in order to hurt me. My date didn't show up because they loathed me. Everything is connected up with something wrong with you.

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730.246 - 744.949 Alain De Botton

And of course, what we really realize is that the world's much more random. The weather wasn't interested in you. The tube is not trying to humiliate you. The date that was late, they had some problem with their own family, whatever it is. There's often a lot more going on than the victimized person feels.

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745.11 - 762.017 Alain De Botton

And so that's why, by the way, it's really useful to get out on a starry night and look at the stars. Because suddenly you're aware of the vastness in which we all live. And you think, you know what? It's not all about me. And that's a beautiful thought because normally we think it's not all about me and that's a bad thing. It should be more about me.

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762.417 - 781.668 Alain De Botton

And then sometimes you look at something vast like the ocean, like the stars, and you think, thank goodness that I'm not the center of this show. This show's been going on a lot longer. It's a lot bigger. I am a grain of sand. Thank God. And so that's a sort of anti-victimization strategy to realize that, you know, it started long before you. It'll go on long after you. It's not about you.

781.828 - 783.591 Alain De Botton

And thank God it's not about you.

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