Behind the Bastards
Part Four: The Zizian Murder Spree (or Exactly How Harry Potter Fanfic Killed A Border Patrol Agent)
Thu, 20 Mar 2025
Robert concludes the story of the Zizians with a spree of horrific violent crimes and deaths, culminating in a shoot out with the Border Patrol in Vermont of all places.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Chapter 1: What happened to Ziz after the protest?
I think they ambush him and stab him repeatedly and he shoots and kills one in self-defense. Obvious, like, again, he has a samurai sword entirely through his back.
Can we acknowledge that this man took 50 to the chest and a samurai sword?
And he's like 80!
Yeah. It don't make him like that anymore.
And it's one of those, one of the, like, doubt claims by the Zizians is that he couldn't have survived being stabbed this many times. People survive getting stabbed a crazy amount of times, all the time. If you read about enough stabbing accounts, you will read about people who die because they get stabbed once, and you will read about people who live through getting like 70 stab wounds.
It's nuts. Stabbings are very hard to predict.
Tricky, tricky. It's also so worrisome because now they've done it, right? They've crossed that line.
Yes. They've crossed that line and one of them has died, right? Yes. So the stakes are as high as they had always thought that they were. And when the box trucks are cleaned out after they get arrested, the ones who had carried out the attack, because Ziz is on the property and I think Gwyn is too still at this point, but Ziz does not participate in the attack.
And like cops recognize Ziz and know that she's faking her death and don't arrest her, which is one of like the weird things. They're familiar enough to know that. Yeah. I think this is that, because they've been called before because of these people.
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Chapter 3: What are the allegations against the rationalist community?
An employee reports them to the police because they're wearing body armor and other tactical gear, and at least one of them is openly carrying a pistol. Something is very weird here because they're approached not just by Virginia State Police, but by a Homeland Security investigations officer.
And there's evidence that Homeland Security is surveilling them for like a week before the shootout that happens. I don't know what Homeland Security thought was happening. They may have just seen we're on the border. Obviously, shit's escalated there. This is a foreign citizen with an American citizen. They're wrapping their electronics in tinfoil. They've got guns.
They're driving around being very suspicious in tactical gear. Maybe they just thought it was like some run-of-the-mill terrorism bullshit. It's worth checking out. Right. So they are surveilling these people. And I think Youngblood and Bockholt realize they're being surveilled. Right.
And that starts that escalatory loop in their head of Zizian logic where, well, if the police confront me, there's only one way to respond. Yeah. Yeah. Two days later, prosecutors in California ask the judge in the Curtis Lind case to speed up the process of going to trial. He's in his 80s. He's got a bad memory and he's the only witness of the attacks. They say it's necessary.
We need to do this quickly. So the next day, January 17th, before this can happen, before Lind can go to trial, a masked assailant assaults Lind near his property and slits his throat, killing him. Maximilian Snyder, Youngblood's husband, will be arrested days later in Redding, California for the murder. Fuck.
Fuck, because they had been separate. Oh, man. Right, right. So there's a possibility that this isn't sent after the marriage.
Yeah. I don't see why. Now, he hasn't pled yet, at least as of the time we record this, but he sent a letter in jail to Eliezer Yudkowsky trying to make him become a vegan. Priorities in order. Oh, fuck. He also claimed, quote, I am not one of Ziz's friends. Neither she nor her friends endorse me or my words. So far as I know, I speak only for myself as myself for the sake of everyone. Sure.
Yeah, okay. Okay, man. You just decided to kill this guy for no reason? Dog, you are.
Oh, man. This guy who happened to happen to have a relationship with this very small group of people.
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