Part One: Elizabeth Dilling: The Original Candace Owens
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Who was Elizabeth Dilling and why is she significant?
Welcome back to Behind the Bastards. This is not the first episode of the podcast we've done this year during the official summer, but it's basically the official legal Christian summer. Right, guys? Team? Isn't it? It feels hot as hell outside today.
It's going to, but only for the next couple of days and then it's going to be in the 60s. Oh, is it? Yeah. And then Mother Nature will water my garden and I'm thrilled. Yeah.
Great. I'm glad that Oregon won't burn down yet. Yes.
Katie Stoll's here. Legend. Hey, everybody.
How hot and or on fire is it where you are?
Oh, yeah. Both of those things. I am in the mountains, but it is an unpleasant... Well, it's 85. It's 85. It's not too bad. Could be worse. We had some 90-degree days last week, but I moved to the mountains thinking it would be cooler, and boy, was I wrong.
Yeah, it gets hot. It gets hot.
Lots of burnable brush all around me as well, so...
Yeah. Everything catches on fire out there. That's the beauty of living out in the country. Yeah. And they defunded one of my, they closed one of our fire stations. Anyway.
Oh, that's always reassuring.
Oh, good. It's not like California needs a lot of those. Wild times. i'm only bringing up the summer because i had my first every every year when it gets hot again i remember okay i gotta put out sunscreen before i go run this time and then 15 or so minutes into that first run of the year with sunscreen i remember oh yeah when you sweat with sunscreen it burns your eyes like a son of a bitch so if my eyes look like red and puffy it's because i just finished a run in a shower and my entire face was on fire from sunscreen
I actually thought it was because you were crying.
No. No, Sophie.
I was like, oh, you've been touched.
I would tell you if I was crying, but this is simply self-inflicted friendly fire. Self-inflicted friendly fire. Another piece. Why are you wearing a sweater, man? It's so hot.
It's cold in my basement.
Yeah, because he records in his basement. It's the way my AC works. We're talking about summer and you're all bundled up. I am wearing my hoodie or my sweater, yes.
Meanwhile, Katie and I are loosey-goosey.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah. I got my Lakers Luka Doncic shirt on. Shout out to my haters. Okay. Anyways, Robert, did the job. Should we do it?
Yeah. Should we do the job? Katie Stoll, how are you doing today? Podcasting-wise? Pretty good. I'm sitting here with my old pals, whom I've missed. I have missed you, too. And I have missed talking to you about shitty people. So I wanted to give you a special shitty person today. We talk a lot about old-timey, far-right influencers on this podcast. The guys around the 20s and 30s and 40s. The OG American fascists. But we haven't talked a lot about... the history of women in the, early history of women in the American fascist movement and the crucial role different like female influencers have played in the American far right. And so today we're gonna talk about a woman who you could call the first Candace Owens or the first Laura Loomer.
You can make a case. She's got bits of both of those, both Candace and Laura owe a little bit to this lady we're gonna talk about this week, Elizabeth Dilling. Have you heard that name before?
Elizabeth Dilling. Do you see why I was like, we need Katie for this episode? Yeah. Okay, I'm excited.
I do not know anything about Elizabeth Dilling.
She's not super famous. She is the B-side to a more famous fascist that I think you will recognize from later on. But like, again, because I guess of misogyny, she never quite got as famous as her male fascist counterpart. Well, fuck the patriarchy. Am I allowed to say fuck on Netflix?
Yeah, you can say whatever the fuck you want on Netflix. There's no rules here.
If you've watched Netflix, they don't give a shit.
Yeah, you're right.
They barely know what's on their own network. Thanks, Netflix.
Thanks for the money. This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human.
There was no anything inside those eyes. They turned black. It scared the hell out of me. Evil, wake up.
I'm the one that saw the murder take place by Krivak and DePippo.
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