Part One: Robert Maxwell: How Ghislaine Maxwell's Dad Ruined Science

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Who is Robert Maxwell and why is he significant?

Robert Evans 0:05
Welcome back to Behind the Bastards, a podcast about the very worst people in all of history. And ladies and gentlethems, we've got a real motherfucker of a motherfucker for you this week. And to talk about one of the most interesting sons of bitches we're going to talk about on this series, I have one of the most interesting guests that we've had on this show, Adam Conover. Adam Conover. Welcome to the program. You hardly need introduction, but obviously you were the host of Adam Ruins Everything. And you've done, I mean, you've been in a ton of stuff since you were in BoJack Horseman. You serve on the board of the WGA. And you have a podcast now, right?
Adam Conover 0:45
Yeah, I do a show called Factually on YouTube and wherever you get your podcasts. And I also do video monologues, which don't really have a title, but it's sort of the current evolution of what people know me for doing. doing topical comedy about the world around us, mostly about fascism. I'm doing a lot of weekly video updates about creeping fascism and what we can do about it. And yeah, trying to be a little green shoot in the ashes of the entertainment industry and doing stuff online now. Having a great time.
Robert Evans 1:16
Yeah, it's a lot of fun. It's interesting to me. You and I both came out of, because you came out of college humor, where you did a lot of your early work. I came out of crack. So we're kind of like cousins in digital media terms. Definitely. Both of whom started out doing like, yeah, pop culture commentary. And now it's just all fascism. It's just all fascism.
Adam Conover 1:35
Remember when there used to be websites? And on the websites, you could do comedy about it. Various things. History or pop culture or just like, you know, something about dating college chicks. And people would click on that. You'd get some money. And now you've got to go on Elon Musk's platform and... Talk about how a judge was arrested. Yes.
Robert Evans 2:02
Yes. Or you go onto Facebook and you see a crudely AI-generated image of a soldier with no arms and a face that just isn't quite right that says, nobody will share this image. It's great. I love what's happened to media. This is so much better than my friends having health care. Yeah.
Adam Conover 2:21
No one will share this image as the funniest trope of viral Facebook boomer content.
Robert Evans 2:26
I love it. I love it. I love it. It's so good. So this is actually slightly relevant to the person we're talking about today because our bastard this week is – he's the man who ruined science in a lot of ways. And he's also one of the major figures who like helped make media what it is. He was Rupert Murdoch's nemesis for years. Um, and the primary reason you're going to know this guy, and I think everyone listening is going to know this guy is he is the father of Gillen Maxwell. We're talking this week about Robert Maxwell.
Narrator 3:03
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Soledad O'Brien 3:09
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Narrator 3:20
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Paul F. Tompkins 3:29
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Anonymous Caller 1 3:47
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Therapy Gecko Host 3:50
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Unnamed Guest 2 3:52
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Therapy Gecko Host 3:54
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Alive Again Host 4:20
What happens when we come face to face with death?
Anonymous Caller 3 4:23
My truck was blown up by a 20-pound anti-tank mine.
Anonymous Caller 4 4:25
My parachute did not deploy.
Anonymous Caller 3 4:27
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