Why Charlie Puth Is Different From Every Artist (Ep. 38)

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Previously titled “Why Charlie Puth Is Different From Every Artist (Ep. 37)” — renamed by the publisher on Aug 2, 2026

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What personal realizations did Charlie Puth have about happiness?

Charlie Puth 0:00
I can buy this car. That's going to make me happy. It didn't make me happy. I can buy this house. That's going to make me happy. That didn't make me happy. And I remember being like crying at my 30th birthday party and realizing that I really didn't have anyone that close to me.
Unknown 0:14
Please welcome Charlie Puth. Charlie Puth. Charlie Puth.
Charlie Puth 0:18
we've had like eight multi-platinum hits there's over a hundred million streams all the people who said you'd never make it and then you have a number one song i was terrified to sing in front of people and i knew to be an artist i had to sing in front of people so you came up with what you thought everyone wanted to hear i started out on the internet i think i was one of the first to make a youtube account in 2005. like do you talk to her anymore and he was like no we don't talk anymore and i just was like we don't talk anymore like trying to make a parody song again
Unknown 0:46
Oh, I feel like I have that voice, that original voice note somewhere, if that's of any interest. That's of a lot of interest.
Charlie Puth 0:55
You're a very good interviewer, by the way. Why do you say that?

How did Charlie Puth start his career in music?

Charlie Puth 0:59
Because before you hear a brand new song, you know it's going to be good. Like, I know this is going to be good. I can tell. When I wrote See You Again, it was meant to be for another artist.
Daniel Wall 1:07
You didn't think you'd be on the song?
Charlie Puth 1:08
Oh, they didn't want me on the song. I used to not know myself, which is why I would dye my hair blonde. And I thought I was supposed to be what people expected me to be. I worry that I'm not gonna be understood and that to me feels like a failure. My goal with this album is to be understood and if no one understands me after that then I don't know where I went wrong. Do you feel like you've been understood before?
Unknown 1:31
No.
Daniel Wall 1:39
So excited to officially be here with Charlie Puth, one of the artists that has been a part of our childhood and now adulthood, at least my childhood and my adulthood. I'm sure so many others out there.
Charlie Puth 1:52
When did you first hear one of my songs?
Daniel Wall 1:54
See You Again, 100%.
Charlie Puth 1:55
That was my first introduction. 2014, 2015. Oh, my God. 11 years. That's officially a long time ago. That's crazy.
Daniel Wall 2:03
Officially a long time ago. Wow. But I'm excited to go over everything before then because I think you have a really amazing story. And I was listening to it. What I do to prepare to go behind the wall is I try to listen to as many interviews as possible.
Unknown 2:15
Oh, boy.
Daniel Wall 2:17
What was cool about yours specifically is I feel like I kind of – I knew a lot about you because I've been a fan for a long time.
Charlie Puth 2:24
Oh, that's nice. Thank you.
Daniel Wall 2:26
So I knew a lot of like the songs and it was interesting to go back and see like the interviews and see how much you've changed as a human being when it came to like answering questions.
Charlie Puth 2:34
Yeah, there were some bad ones.
Daniel Wall 2:36
What do you define as bad?
Charlie Puth 2:38
When I was exaggerating or just saying things because I – it's so weird. I was never – when I wrote See You Again, it was meant to be for another artist. I never thought of myself as an artist. So one day I was just kind of catapulted into artist world and I didn't exactly know how to be an artist because I never really acted like an artist or – carried myself in that way. So, when that day happened, I just had to kind of figure it out in front of millions of people. Which is insane. It's insane and there are a lot of mess ups and some of those interviews I can't watch. They're like so hard to watch because I was... Oh, that was the point of bringing this up. I never believed that...

What is Charlie Puth's creative process for songwriting?

Charlie Puth 3:22
People just wanted to listen to my music just to listen to my music. I always thought that there needed to be a reason for them to want to go to my music, like some interesting story or whatever. That's their power drilling something back there. I don't know how annoying that's going to be.
Daniel Wall 3:38
So you came up with what you thought everyone wanted to hear back then versus now, like just how real the power drilling is. Like you are becoming like more real as an artist and like being more authentic of who you are in a way.
Charlie Puth 3:51
Yeah, absolutely. And I guess that's a... Is a good symbol of a... What note is that?

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