In this episode, the hosts discuss the evolving landscape of AI infrastructure security, focusing on the complexities of building and maintaining AI data centers. They explore the critical role of Baseboard Management Controllers (BMCs) as an attack surface, the importance of supply chain security, and best practices for hardware procurement. The conversation underscores the importance of validating hardware and firmware integrity for organizations while also addressing the significant security risks associated with AI workloads. As AI data centers continue to grow, understanding these challenges and implementing robust security measures will be essential for future success. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Zero Trust and Its Evolution 03:33 Current State of Zero Trust Implementation 05:22 Micro-Segmentation and Infrastructure Security 10:02 Zero Trust and Lateral Movement Prevention 11:32 The Role of Zero Trust in Ransomware Defense 14:51 Chase Cunningham's Insights on Cyber Warfare 16:23 The Intersection of Cyber Warfare and Modern Conflicts 21:35 The Future of Warfare: Drones and Cybersecurity 24:01 Understanding the Drone Threat 28:28 The Evolution of Cyber Warfare 35:00 The State of Critical Infrastructure 39:26 The Economics of Breaches 44:29 Incentivizing Cybersecurity Improvements

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