In Sickness and In Health | EP 2 | Saskia's Story
episodePreviously titled “In Sickness and In Health | Saskia's Story” — renamed by the publisher on Aug 5, 2026
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Saskia was days away from her wedding. She thought she was ready to marry Mike, her partner and best friend of five years. But then, a few nights before their wedding, she saw something. I remember we were in bed. I can't tell you what was happening before, after, but it was literally like a snapshot in time. In the middle of the night, she opened her eyes, disoriented, exhausted. Mike was wide awake on his laptop, and on his screen, she could see two people. And I didn't know if it was like a movie or whether he knew them. And I remember being really confused and saying, like, what's going on? She couldn't make sense of what she was seeing, but it felt wrong. She didn't know, couldn't know, that she was getting a glimpse of the real Mike, the one who only came out at night.
And he said, oh, say hi.
I'm Andrea Gunning, and this is Betrayal, Season 5, Episode 2. In sickness and in health. We're going to return to that night a few days before the wedding when Saskia saw something on Mike's computer. But to understand what was going on there and all that came next, we need to go back in time because this wasn't a random crime and Saskia wasn't a random victim. She believes Mike chose her for a reason. The key to understanding this story is understanding Saskia herself, the strong parts of her and the vulnerable parts too. So let's return to the beginning. Saskia grew up in a suburb of D.C., where she still lives today. In many ways, she had a great childhood. At times, it sounded to me like something out of a 70s TV show.
She's always been an animal lover, and growing up, her cat would walk her and her friends to school.
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