Giada Scodellaro : Ruins, Child
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What does Dionne Brand say about the themes of *Ruins Child*?
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If you are a writer interested in being part of the workshops, find out more details and how to register at animotepress.com slash workshops ANA M O T Press dot com slash workshops. One pleasure of preparing for the last conversation with Saul Williams and today's with Giada Scotolaro is that they are both conversations about film and filming as much as they are about words and writing. Because outside of the show, I confess I'm a bit of a film nerd and I do get to unfurl my film nerd flag a little with Giotta today. in a way that is super illuminating about her book, and also super gratifying regarding these films themselves, films that I do hope you'll seek out after today's conversation. As you'll soon discover, Three Time Between the Covers guest Dion Brand
is also a presence in today's conversation, both outside of the book, between Giotta and I, and within her book as well. And for the bonus audio archive, Giata contributes an extended reading from one of my favorite poetry collections of Dion's, Ossuaries. And this joins an immense and ever growing archive, which includes a reading by Dion herself of Christina Sharp and Kinesia Lubrin. Another by Tedju Cole reading John Berger and his own writing to John Berger. Nicki Finney reading from Lorraine Hansbury's Diaries. A close reading of Jamaica Kinkade with commentary by Miriam Chancy Poetry and Poetry Prompts by Denez Smith and a craft talk by Marlon James, just to name a few. To find out about how to subscribe to the bonus audio.
and all the other potential benefits and rewards of joining the Between the Covers community as a listener supporter. Head over to the show's Patreon page at patreon dot com slash between the covers. And now for today's episode with Giata Scotolaro.
Good morning and welcome to Between the Covers. I'm David Naaman, your host. Today's guest, the writer and artist Giata Scotolaro, has an MFA in fiction from the News School and is an assistant professor of creative writing at Columbia University's School of the Arts. A McDowell fellow, Scotolaro's writing has appeared in The New Yorker, Baum, Harper's, Granta, and Brick, and her debut story. Story collection, Some of Them Will Carry Me, published by one of my favorite presses, Dorothy, was named a Best Book of 2022 by the New Yorker. And one story within it, Hangnails and Other Diseases, was shortlisted for the White Review Short Story Prize.
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Chapters
6 chapters
1
What does Dionne Brand say about the themes of *Ruins Child*?
0:00–28:46
2
How does Giada Scodellaro describe the opening scene of a woman tying her shoes?
28:46–52:47
3
Why does Scodellaro focus on the repeated imagery of legs and thighs?
52:47–1:14:58
4
How does the novel explore the politics and poetics of the gaze?
1:14:58–1:38:18
5
What role does landscape architecture play in the character Vanetta’s story?
1:38:18–1:57:02
6
How does the book engage with dance, especially Pina Bausch’s *Rite of Spring*?
1:57:02–2:09:18