Sex Lives of American Presidents
episodePreviously titled “Sex Lives of American Presidents [repeat]” — renamed by the publisher on Aug 3, 2026
Betwixt The Sheets: The History of Sex, Scandal & Society
38 min
3 speakers
4 chapters
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What shocking historical facts about presidents' sex lives are revealed?
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And you should be an adult too. And now you have to consider that your fair dues warning. You have been warned. We're going to get spicy. Okay. If you're still here, on with the show. Hello, Betwixters. I've got my voice down because I'm currently hidden in the stationary cupboard in the White House. I only came in for a pen, honest. Peeping in through the slats of the door, I can make out, who is that? And would you look at that? They appear to have some female company that is not their wife. How utterly, utterly shocking. Well, I won't give away which president I'm spying on, but let's just say it's the 1950s and this guy is known for taking liberties. I'll leave you to make your own double entendres about positions of power, but seriously, what is it about political power and sexual infidelity?
Are the two linked? And how? And although I really want to know the answers to those questions, I think we need to get out of here as quickly as we can to find out.
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Hello and welcome back to Betwixt the Sheets, the history of sex, scandal and society with me, Kate Lister. When they're not walking the corridors of power and making decisions that affect the lives of millions of people, American presidents have also been known just once in a while, just occasionally, ever so rarely, to have an extramarital affair or two or three or five or 50. As America will be celebrating 250 years since the signing of the Declaration of Independence, well done everybody, we wanted to dust off this episode about the sex lives of US presidents. It's just our way of paying respects to the big day. I was joined in this episode by Eleanor Herman, author of Sex with Presidents, and she helped me find out more about the bedroom antics of the commanders-in-chief.
Let's do this. Hello, and welcome back to Betwixt the Shades. It's only Eleanor Harmon. How are you doing?
I am so delighted to be here again talking to you, Kate. I always have such a blast. I think this is our sixth conversation.
You have written a book called Sex with Presidents, The Ins and Outs of Love and Lust in the White House. What made you want to write this fascinating book, Eleanor?
Well, my first book was Sex with Kings, and I looked at the sex lives of European royals. The second book was Sex with the Queen. My third book was pretty much Sex in the Vatican. And then I did a lot of other books. And then this came out in 2020, Sex with Presidents. I figured I should turn my attention to US history and really did a deep dive. I'm more expert on European history, and I was shocked to learn a lot about my own nation's history.
Do you think – it's kind of a weird one because most of us have sex. Most of us have sex. But there is something about power and sex that goes together. Do you think with all the research you've done around kings and queens and presidents that something happens when you get given that much power when it comes to sex?
Yes, it's true. There's actually a psychological disorder. Really? It was accepted as such by the psychiatric community in 2009 called – hubris disorder. Unlike most mental illnesses, which develop in early adulthood, this one is triggered by wielding power over a period of time. And when that individual loses power, the illness subsides.
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Chapters
4 chapters
1
What shocking historical facts about presidents' sex lives are revealed?
0:00–7:29
2
What is the relationship between power and sexual infidelity in politics?
7:29–10:26
3
Which president had a scandalous affair on his honeymoon?
10:26–36:45
4
How did Thomas Jefferson's relationship with Sally Hemings impact his legacy?
36:45–38:38