In this episode of Beyond the Noise, Matt Klein sits down with Jesse Wilson, one of the most influential engineers in the mobile world, to trace the open source dominoes that shaped modern Android. Jesse starts in the pre-GitHub era, open-sourcing a Swing UI project to bring iTunes-style search and filtering to boring business software, then explains how that single choice created career gravity: Nike, a cold email to Java collections author Josh Bloch, and a fast jump into Google’s early growth years. From there, he dives into Guice, Android’s “cowboy” early culture, and the moment that lit the fuse for what eventually became OkHttp.The back half goes deep on the messy reality of platform networking: why OkHttp isn’t “in Android” (and also kind of is) and why HTTP/3 is such a gnarly leap. From there, Jesse zooms out into the mobile pain Matt and bitdrift knows well: slow deployments, long-tail bugs, and the QA bureaucracy that makes changing a button label so complicated. He closes with a contrarian (and spicy) roadmap: WebAssembly as the real shift worth watching, a future where monolith vs microservices becomes an operational choice, and a surprising optimism that web has finally caught up to native.

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