ECB's Kazaks Talks Central Bank Pressure
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How did global central bankers respond to the subpoenas involving Fed Chair Jerome Powell?
Global central bankers have expressed their full solidarity with the Federal Reserve after the weekend's news as grand jury subpoenas had been served as part of a criminal investigation into the central bank and its chair, Jerome Powell. Now, this is happening at a time that central banks are facing more divergent interest rate paths as well. The ECB now not expected to alter rates for some time. Joining us now to discuss all of this, the governor of the Bank of Latvia and ECB governing council member, Martins Kazaks. Martins Kazaks, good morning. Great to see you in Brussels with us. Now, the ECB president signed that letter of support for Jerome Powell on behalf of the governing council, which you're a member of.
What's your view of these events? How worrying is this for central bank independence?
This is bad news because central bank independence is very critical for central banks to deliver good monetary policy. So the typical outcome that we see from the past experience is with undermining central bank independence would be inflationary bias and potential risk of the anchoring of expectations, which means that the adjustment through monetary policy might be more painful to the economy because one of the elements that we've seen in the past inflationary phase, especially in Europe, has been unexpectedly low sacrifice ratios. And one of the reasons has been the credibility of the central bank policy that has allowed to move rates less to bring inflation down. So this is by all means bad news.
Are you concerned about any pushback from President Trump on this issue? New Zealand, for example, and its foreign affairs minister rebuking the RBNZ for signing that letter, saying that the RBNZ has no role, nor should it involve itself in US domestic politics. Are you concerned about any pushback from the US against the ECB or other central bankers for that letter?
Well, I would not speculate on that, but I think let's be calm and really be aware in terms of the European case as well that the independence of central banks and accountability, of course, of central banks as well has allowed to deliver on the mandate. And that's why in terms of monetary policy in Europe, we are in a good place. And an important element of that has been independence of the central bank. Independence of the central bank, in my view as well, allows to learn from mistakes because then the assessment of the policy errors is frank and it is analysis-based. It's not politically driven. So this is an advantage to have independent monetary policy rather than a burden.
But could politicians in Europe perhaps be emboldened by what they see across the Atlantic? This is something that Citigroup has warned about, that central bank independence could come under threat in Europe if the move towards shorter dated bonds tempts politicians to push for lower interest rates. Is that a concern?
Yes, the risks are there, in my view, and they are very strong, especially if the policies become more short-termistic. They are more populist, and then, you know, you do not value the stability and delivery of the long-term policy efficiency. This is certainly a worry, but the outcome from such a move... would of course be negative for the European population. So that would be a very bad choice.
Are there particular members of the Euro area where you see that as being a risk? No, I would not comment on that.
Things can happen in any country, and the politics could move. But this has been the track record that we have been delivering recently, in Europe, in my view, strengthens the case for dependence of the central bank, because of it doing a good job so far. But as I mentioned, of course, independence should come hand in hand together with accountability.
Okay, so accountability is sort of a necessary precursor. In terms of the interest rate path ahead, markets aren't pricing in any rate moves this year. Are you comfortable with that outlook?
The modus operandi that we have had so far has been the appropriate one.
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Chapters
4 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:02–0:07
2
How did global central bankers respond to the subpoenas involving Fed Chair Jerome Powell?
0:07–4:43
3
Why does Martins Kazaks say threats to central bank independence could raise inflation expectations?
4:43–9:43
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Could political pushback from the US or other governments undermine central bank independence in Europe?
9:43–10:13
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