Chapter 1: What are the latest developments regarding Ukraine and Russia?
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not to mention what is happening in Ukraine and throughout Europe right now. President Trump has been speaking quite a bit about this recently with a new security plan and a new peace proposal for Ukraine. We find the headline on the terminal before we spend some time with the foreign minister of Slovenia. Trump gives Zelensky days. to respond to a peace proposal.
This is the plan that has been hashed out with Steve Witkoff, Jared Kushner, and to a lesser extent, the Secretary of State Marco Rubio over the past couple of weeks. Trump's envoys, according to the Financial Times, have given Zelensky only days to respond to a proposed peace deal. The president saying...
Just on Sunday evening at the Kennedy Center that he was disappointed President Zelensky hadn't even read the proposal yet because there are great concerns that this proposal favors Russia and would force Ukraine to give up part of its sovereign territory. Bigger questions about President Trump's view of our allies in Europe. He was asked about this in his sit-down interview with Politico.
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Chapter 2: How does Slovenia's foreign minister view the peace proposal?
Is he missing something that you wish he knew?
First, thank you for inviting me. We just had a very good discussion in the Security Council in Ukraine, which was at points quite emotional. And rightly so. We are observing the fourth year of brutal Russian aggression in Ukraine, with a lot of civilian deaths, a lot of children deaths, destroyed energy infrastructure, and severe violations of international law and the UN Charter.
So everyone, including Ukrainians, wants to see just and lasting peace. And everyone in the Security Council, 14 countries, are permanently calling for an immediate and unconditional ceasefire. So I think it is very clear. That is Russia. We want to see peace and we want to see just and lasting peace. That means that peace is also acceptable for Ukraine.
Yeah. Well, we should note, and I appreciate your answer, that Slovenia currently holds the presidency at the UN Security Council. So your views are important here. Do you worry that this plan on the table now favors Russia and would hurt Ukraine and therefore the rest of Europe?
I mean, the negotiations are ongoing, and I, of course, commend the U.S. administration, Trump, and everyone involved, because it is good that there is time also for diplomacy, for searching for political solution instead of a military one. Of course, first is, as I said before, immediate and urgent ceasefire needed, and then meaningful negotiations. Ukraine has to be at the table.
Europe has to be at the table. We are discussing about strong security guarantees for the countries that something like similar wouldn't happen again in the future. And it's also about accountability. It is a brutal war that is ongoing. We see really horrible acts. I was traveling myself not long ago in Ukraine in several parts of the country. When you see
Young people, children being amputated without legs, without arms. I mean, these are worse victims. So we do have to all do more. And I encourage diplomacy to work. And I encourage all sides to be equally engaged, especially Ukraine, because Ukraine is deciding about its own future. We speak about territorial sovereignty and integrity. No one by force can change Ukraine.
the internationally recognized borders.
You know, when you consider the idea of this peace plan being accepted within days, the FT is reporting that that timeline is keying off President Trump's hope to have a peace deal in place, a deal agreed to by Christmas. Minister, is that possible?
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Chapter 3: What concerns does Slovenia have about the current negotiations?
He's speaking about the state and about the future of his state. That's why I say it's very important that everyone is at the table, that the dialogue is ongoing, but still... As long as there are bombings every day, I don't see it's a good way to find a meaningful negotiation.
So yes, I do commend the efforts of Trump and administration because we start talking, and Europeans, but it is clear how these talks should be conducted, meaningful way and based on an international law and a UN Charter.
Minister Fayon, President Trump sat for an extended interview with Politico and was asked about these negotiations. I'd like you to hear what he said, and we'll have you respond. Listen.
Which country right now is in the stronger negotiating position?
Well, there can be no question about it. It's Russia. It's a much bigger country.
Zelensky rejects this deal. Is there a timeline? Is there a point at which you say,
Well, he's going to have to get on the ball and start accepting things. You know, when you're losing, he's losing.
Do you think Ukraine has lost this war?
Well, they've lost territory long before I got here. They lost a whole strip of seafront, big seafront.
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