Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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I think the Bible specifically mentions the Great Pyramid, the Giza Pyramid. I think that also it plays a role in the end times. And I think the Bible identifies who built it.
The history of our Earth is so different from what we can imagine. The Smithsonian, if they found out about a large skeleton somewhere, was to go get it.
I'm going to assume at least one person is right, because if one person's right, it busts the paradigm. It all goes back to the fallen church. And the problem with the modern-day church, they have a very truncated view of the supernatural.
This backdrop that's just pregnant with all kinds of meaning associated with this Mount Hermon event.
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Chapter 2: What is the significance of the Great Pyramid in biblical context?
And that one has our friend Kirk Cameron on the front. Yeah, it does.
Kirk, we didn't get him to sign it, but he did sign our wall studio. But, you know, it's been fun to go back. And we're going back again today. not only because you were on many early episodes of blurry creatures, but we're going back to maybe some ancient construction who built it into the oldest book in the Bible. Yes. Arguably. So that's going way back.
It's great to have Ryan Peterson back in the house. Ryan, take us back.
Let's go. Great to be back. And we're going to go way back in time. And today, you know, I want to talk about, uh, the pyramid, the pyramid, the Giza pyramid, the great pyramid, the oldest one. And, uh, Today I want to talk about really three things around that. One, I think the Bible specifically mentions the Great Pyramid, the Giza Pyramid.
Two, I think that also it plays a role in the end times. And I think the Bible identifies who built it.
Wow. This is good. This is big time. We've talked about the pyramids, Nate. There's so many theories, right? I think most people are kind of out on the idea that it was a tomb. Also a great 80s game show. What's it called again?
Was it $20,000 pyramid? Yeah, I can remember the number. Yeah.
Well, if we, yeah, I mean, it could have been. It really could have been a $20,000 pyramid if we extrapolate for inflation and everything else. Maybe that's what it costs back in the day. But we've had folks on talking about sort of hypothesizing what the function of these things were. But not who made them. Well, we've talked a bit about giants and all these different things.
Sure, theories. We said giants built the pyramids as moralized on our...
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Chapter 3: How does Ryan Pitterson theorize Job's connection to the pyramid?
I think Jeremiah actually saw the pyramid. I think this is what he's speaking about. And so I'm going to go to Jeremiah 32. All right. And pick up in verse 17. He says, thou has made the heaven and the earth by thy great power and stretched out arm.
And there is nothing too hard for thee, showing loving kindness unto thousands and recompensing the iniquity of the fathers into the bosom of their children after them. The great, the mighty God, the Lord of hosts is his name. So clearly speaking of God's greatness and his majesty. And he continues here, it says,
And in Israel and among other men and has made thee a name as at this day and has brought forth thy people Israel out of the land of Egypt with signs and with wonders and a strong hand, stretched out arm and great terror. And so he's Jeremiah saying that there was there was a wonder and a sign that God put in Egypt that still existed to this day. So, of course, Jeremiah's writing was.
on the eve of the Babylonian captivity, which is 586 BC. So this is, we're almost a thousand years after Moses in Egypt, when all the signs and wonders happened in the Exodus. And Jeremiah is saying, there's a wonder in Egypt that God made that's still there today, a thousand years later. So he's not, I don't think he's talking about anything to do with the Exodus plagues or anything like that.
I think he's talking about an actual structure.
So the pyramids were old then.
Oh yeah, sure. Yeah. This is a thousand years plus. Yeah.
So we've talked about that too. That is the idea that like, that these massive structures seem to be repurposed because they don't actually follow any of the Egyptian archetype or architecture for a tomb, right? The Egyptians buried their Pharaohs in the Valley of the Kings, not in a pyramid. And that's been a bit of crux of some of the conversations is like, well, what is this thing really about?
It just looks like someone said, Hey, And there's a lot of talk about these actually predating the Egyptian, dynastic Egyptians as well. And this is cool, this theory we haven't heard. And there's some, this is interesting.
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Chapter 4: What evidence supports the idea of the pyramid as a divine altar?
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So if the Lord erects a monument or a pillar to himself, then who builds it?
I believe it will be the patriarch Job. Which is the oldest book of the Bible. The oldest book of the Bible. I think Job built it. And so how do we get there? So I think, again, if you think about, first of all, the introduction of Job. In chapter one, in Job chapter one, it's very interesting the things they say about him.
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Chapter 5: How do Jeremiah and Isaiah reference the Great Pyramid?
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But let me go to Job 29 to establish where I get this whole idea. How could Job be king? This is Job lamenting on the good old days before all the problems came into his life from Satan, which he didn't know was happening, of course, but it was. So he's saying right from the end of the chapter, oh, that I were as in months past. As in the days when God preserved me. So this is when life is good.
When his candle shined upon my head and when by his light I walked through darkness. As I was in the days of my youth when the secret of God was upon my tabernacle. Now I'm skipping ahead a little bit. When I went out to the gate through the city, when I prepared my seat in the street. The young men saw me and hid themselves, and the age rose and stood up.
The princes refrained from talking and laid their hand on their mouth. The nobles held their peace, and their tongue cleaved to the roof of their mouth. Unto me men gave ear and waited and kept silence at my counsel. After my words they spoke not again, and my speech dropped upon them. Job is saying that when he spoke... No one else spoke. When he walked in, everyone stood up.
When princes stopped speaking in his presence. So he's speaking himself as if he is above them. He's exalted above them. And then as you continue, he says, "'They waited for me as the rain. They opened their mouth wide as the latter rain. If I laughed in them, they believed it not. And the light of my confidence they cast not down.
I chose out their way and sat chief and dwelt as a king in the army, as one that comforts the mourners.'" And so again, he's describing himself as, I was in this region, which is the ancient Egyptian empire in that time, in second millennium BC, I was the king. I was the top person. And so again, I believe that he's revealing that he was the actual king.
So of course, he would have the authority to build the pyramid. Another interesting factor that connects to this is that when you look again at the secular accounts of Cheops who built the pyramids. Herodotus, again, also talks about the fact that the Egyptians, they hated him. we see an interesting detail, I think, that confirms this in the life of Joseph.
So, of course, Joseph in Genesis gets sold into slavery, goes to Egypt. God raises him up to become the vizier to the Pharaoh. He's the second command. And, of course, this is after Job, right? Job is way before, centuries before we get to Joseph. And he, of course, in the end, reveals himself to his brothers. He saves his family. He's bringing them to Egypt. He saves them from famine. And
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Chapter 6: What role does Egypt play in the end times according to the conversation?
Like he's obviously the son of God leaving heaven with everything, you know, coming down here and losing it all and then being killed. you know, Zadah, and that coming, but staying loyal to his father.
Yeah, amen, absolutely. I think he just found a great similitude type in Shadow, absolutely, right? And in the end, you know, his blessing is, you know, he has twice of whatever, everything he had before. So, you know, like he's now in the eternal kingdom, so to speak, metaphorically.
But somebody had to tell him how to build this thing, you know, obviously. It's not just like, I mean, it stumps people today. You know, every major podcast is trying to, is looking at this and going, you can be skeptical about everything else. Nephilim, giants, Bigfoot, all the stuff, angels, fallen angels, God, but look at this pyramid. Like it stumps everybody.
It's almost like just this rock that reminds you that you can't figure it all out. You know, and it seems to be the cornerstone, no pun intended, of a lot of discussions on, like weird discussions on like all the fringe, it's always kind of starts there, the pyramid.
It's interesting. Yeah, well, I think it has to be divine knowledge. And in fact, it could be that God in Job 38 is just recalling the original conversation they had when he was giving them the directions on how to build the pyramid. Kind of like Noah, like Noah giving them the ark. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly.
makes sense in some ways like you think about like i said before like if you are going to have a mountain to meet with god but you live in the desert what do you do you build one right i mean you build one to in the ancient times that's where you met with the divine so you if you're going to meet with yahweh You need to find a mountain. You could, I guess you could travel.
You could have traveled up or out or down wherever you believe Sinai is to there. But like, it does make sense that you create, even from the pagan point of view, that you create an effigy to a mountain where there are none so that you can commune with your gods. This is what Ziggurat was, right? These are what these pyramids in South America and everywhere else are.
There's the meeting place where you preach to meet with the gods, but... This one's interesting and different. As Nate said, it's enigma. It's one of these things you can't... The mathematics were so advanced that we didn't... It wasn't centuries and centuries later before they defined the mathematics that are contained in this place, which is just... It's mind blowing.
So our argument is that the ancients knew way more than we give them credit for or that we think they did. We think about- Somebody got the blueprints. Yeah. And honestly, I think it begs the question that the ancient humanity wasn't knuckle dragging folks. They knew how to do some things.
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Chapter 7: What are the implications of the pyramid's design and construction?
Because when we interview all the people who know about all the other burial mounds, pyramids, they bury dead bodies in them.
Yeah.
So it's like they're building, you know, there's mounds all over America that look like little mini pyramids and all over Mexico, all over the, you know.
What are Egyptologists saying? They think someone stole the body of Khufu and that's, so it's gone and empty that way and that's why?
Wouldn't they want to defile it by putting dead body in there and being like, oh, we'll just, you know. I would kind of make, kind of like take a jab at sacred space.
Yeah, be like, here's our God King and he lives here now for eternity.
I don't know. I can see that, but I think Job, I think for Job, he did and he knew. And if you think about too, Job, he probably had one of the most kind of explicit direct prophecy of resurrection. You know, he says, well, I... He said, I know that my redeemer liveth, that I will see him, you know, in my flesh. He knew he was going to die. He knew he would see Jesus in the flesh.
So he was really understanding resurrection power, which of course in our faith is represented by an empty tomb. And so I think this is all in, it's all pointing to Christ, again, who's calling himself the cornerstone. Even Daniel, you know, Daniel's dream, Nebuchadnezzar, the statue,
And, you know, and where he has the head of gold, torso of silver, body of brass, legs of iron, feet of iron and miry clay. And which, of course, represents the Gentile kingdoms throughout the years down to the last end times kingdom. This is the stone cut without hands. comes and destroys the statue, which of course symbolizes Christ and grows into a mountain.
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Chapter 8: How does the pyramid relate to the New Jerusalem in biblical prophecy?
Oh, temples and all that. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Then just, okay, we got to build this boat just to sustain us for 250 days or so. We're going to build it to last that long. This thing was built to last forever. Oh, 100%. And it has. I mean, it's, you know. Which is incredible. But I just don't think you have, it's not a utility.
You know, it's like we would build something just to, we need this to work for an extra, you know, two years you need this thing to work to run the power, power the city here. Let's build a generator and then we don't really care about the next generations. You know, I think that's how modern people are. Except in the 80s, man. They built stuff that lasted forever. Oh, yeah.
Ryan, you're a lawyer. So recap for us your evidentiary trail so we can find the linearness. Can you run us right back through bullet point? We went through it in depth, but here's the case we're laying out for Joe being the guy.
Oh yeah, sure, sure. So obviously he's described, he's introduced in chapter one of Job as one, living in the area of the Giza pyramid. Two, being the wealthiest, most powerful person and obviously being devoted to God. A king. A king, exactly. Then as you continue in Job and hear his own testimony, he describes himself before his suffering
as being basically the most powerful person there in the egyptian empire he's and he specifically references that when i spoke princes were quiet yeah people stood up when i walked in the room everyone listened to every everyone hung on every word i said i sat as chief and king of the army so he's leading princes he's leading the army yeah he was the king he's the guy he was the king yeah and then you know obviously then you combine that with the fact that god
for some reason or other knew that, hey, if I'm gonna speak to Job, I can use a pyramid's construction as a metaphor and he's going to understand the lesson I'm teaching him about me. I'm teaching him about me and who I am and my nature by describing this construction of a pyramid specifically. And then I'm gonna talk about astronomy that all connects to the pyramid of Giza as well.
And so that's how I'm building my case. And then the final thing I would say that we touched on was, what do secular historians say about Cheops who built the pyramid? That he was a monotheist, that he specifically tore down all the idolatry and pagan temples that were being used in Egypt. So exactly what it says about Job, he's eschewing evil.
That term surah, you see that surah is used all the time when God says to cast down your idols. When his commandment came to cast down idols, cast down statues, graven images, the same exact verb in Hebrew. And that's what Cheops did. And then he builds the one pyramid that has no tribute to any God, any fallen angel in it, has an empty tomb.
Yeah.
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