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Boomer & Gio

Hour 2 - Debate Over Mets Winning 90 Games, Crying Athletes, Tiger Thinking Masters

25 Mar 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 16.791 Boomer Esiason

It's the Boomer and Geo podcast from WFAN. Hi, Boomer and Geo coming to you live from the Built Ford Tough studio on the fan end, CBS Sports Network. Red Pocket Mobile fan line is brought to you by your new ultimate cell carrier, Red Pocket Mobile.

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16.771 - 38.597 Boomer Esiason

888-808-1019 is the number to join the show, and a man who called that number is riding a high right now, and it's one of these things where it's like a shooting star. You see it, and it's bright, and then it burns out at times. At some point, his star may burn out, but it's... at its brightest right now. He has emerged, at least in my world, in this offseason.

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39.278 - 63.272 Boomer Esiason

His takes have driven hosts crazy, made Tommy Lugauer absolutely scream at him over and over again. It even gets Boomer a little bit. I have to say, you almost did it in the last phone call with Paul Yonkers. You almost fought him on the minor leaguers thing. And I said, listen, you can't, don't do that thing. Don't do that. You can't fall for it. You can't get angry at Paul.

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63.973 - 86.783 Boomer Esiason

But he is angry at us because we both said that the Mets should win or we're expecting them to win over 90 games. Well, by prediction markets, they're expecting to win over 90 games too, so. And his voice has been such a powerful one on this radio station. We have had entire families call up and say they speak to each other before work and school in Paul and Yonker's voice. Yes.

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86.903 - 105.807 Boomer Esiason

Like before they leave, they'll say, good luck, before they leave the door. Get out of here. When they're about to go to school. Yeah. So this is who was on the line. He wants to talk some Mets with us on the eve of at least Mets baseball. We got the Yankees tonight. Paul, good morning. How are you?

106.563 - 109.286 Jerry Recco

Good morning, and let the games begin.

110.547 - 120.258 Boomer Esiason

I feel like, Paul, before you continue, I feel like you almost want to be right more than you want the Mets to win. Is that a fair criticism?

121.52 - 128.067 Paul from Yonkers

You know, I'm angry. I'm angry what happened here. I lost my buddy.

129.068 - 134.907 Boomer Esiason

I lost Peter Lonzo, and it don't make sense. That's what I'm angry about.

Chapter 2: Why are Mets fans concerned about the team winning 90 games?

210.442 - 247.235 Boomer Esiason

How is Brett Beatty on this team? Two years he tried to make the team. They're shoving him down my throat this year. Get off my team. Get out of here. How do you let your Hall of Fame superstar move to this? You ready? Let's scream it for a minor leaguer. Are you nuts? Is Ohtani moving? Is Judge moving? Paul, I feel you this week. Are you crazy?

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247.596 - 273.6 Boomer Esiason

Paul, I do feel you this week because I've been slapping around a minor leaguer myself for the last couple of days. But, you know, I think that you might be overrating Pete Alonso a little bit too much. When you're calling him a Hall of Famer, it's just a little bit too much. No, no. Alonso, they made him move for the minor leaguer. Carson Bench. He might be great. That's the thing, Mike.

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274.461 - 283.231 Boomer Esiason

You don't know about any of it, Paul. You don't know how it works. By the way, are you a mobile man or not? No. You're not mobile.

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283.631 - 284.212 Paul from Yonkers

I'm mobile.

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284.352 - 285.453 Boomer Esiason

You are mobile, okay.

285.473 - 287.215 Paul from Yonkers

But everything's difficult.

287.235 - 295.945 Boomer Esiason

All right. So getting down to the kickoff to summer at Belmar would be a difficult thing for you?

296.486 - 298.148 Paul from Yonkers

Buddy, this is me.

298.6 - 300.947 Boomer Esiason

The fun of Paul from Yonkers.

Chapter 3: What emotions did Lavonte David express during his retirement?

357.788 - 368.905 Boomer Esiason

We love to hear your takes on the radio. I don't think what you look like showing up at the radio station would all of a sudden say no thanks and put you back in the elevator. What type of monsters do you think we are?

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369.29 - 384.951 Paul from Yonkers

That was great. It's just me. You know, it's just me. I'm just having the time of my life with this. And I don't want to mess it up. You know, I'm just enjoying this.

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Chapter 4: How do crying athletes impact sports narratives?

385.351 - 388.195 Paul from Yonkers

And I don't want to be seen. Okay.

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388.516 - 389.216 Unknown

I love it.

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389.297 - 394.183 Brett Favre

It's fun. I just want to say before I let you go to Cohen.

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394.771 - 395.992 Boomer Esiason

Einstein.

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396.012 - 398.415 Jerry Recco

Get out of here.

398.435 - 417.938 Boomer Esiason

There you go, Paul. Thank you. I mean, I know. Died in the world. Met fan for sure. I know. We're all a little bit upset that Pete Alonzo was here. The Mets weren't going five years. Let's just face it. They weren't going five years. They had a deal with him last year. He opt out of it again. And he got the most money for his family. And that is great for Pete.

417.958 - 423.148 Boomer Esiason

And he finally got the contract that he was hoping to get. And I couldn't be happier for him.

Chapter 5: What were the highlights of the Knicks' recent win?

423.168 - 446.981 Boomer Esiason

I hope he does well down in Baltimore. But, man, I root for the laundry. You know what I'm saying? Just like you were saying about St. John's and college basketball and the guys here for a year and then go somewhere else, whatever. I am rooting for the Mets, and I do believe that David Stearns basically overturned this roster and is trying to make the team come closer together.

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447.001 - 466.471 Boomer Esiason

I do believe that there was an issue in that locker room. I don't know what the issues were. You never know. But David Stearns, the manager, they fired half the coaching staff. I mean, let's face it. There have been a million changes on this roster. Yeah, there's no doubt that it takes ruthlessness to turn things around.

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Chapter 6: What is Tiger Woods' current status regarding the Masters?

466.511 - 484.465 Boomer Esiason

That's your favorite word when it comes to general managers. And this was one of those moves in the eyes of the fans where Pete Alonzo was not going to get an offer. We were not going to bring him back. And it exposes David Stearns and Steve Cohen to a certain degree. It's a major, major fan criticism.

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484.445 - 503.109 Boomer Esiason

Because Pete's a guy who can put on an offensive show, and the Mets are a team that obviously we've seen them have brutal seasons even with good players. And if that happens, that's going to be brought up over and over and over again. The other problem, though, for Pete is that he can go five games without a home run and not come up in the clutch. More than that, yeah.

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503.129 - 526.488 Boomer Esiason

But he cannot come up in the clutch in three of those five games when all you need is a hit. Sure. I mean, like, so... While the numbers, they jump off the page, and we all like Pete, and we all loved him as the polar bear, and he was our guy. I mean, it's time to move on. And you say David Stearns is exposed. I say David Stearns actually put a reasonably good team together.

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526.508 - 532.82 Boomer Esiason

If you bring in Marcus Simeon and Bo Bichette, come on. Those guys are professional baseball players. Yeah, but that's a two-things-can-be-true spot. I agree.

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Chapter 7: How do social media trends influence sports discussions?

532.84 - 552.657 Boomer Esiason

I think he puts it together. I like the offseason. I really like the offseason. And I was someone who was totally fine with Pete Alonso leaving. And when I said it the first time, before they didn't give him a contract, Met fans were all over my ass and disagreeing with it. But I also think that because of the reaction from the fan base, if it doesn't work out and Pete has some...

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552.637 - 578.3 Boomer Esiason

awesome season, the Mets have an awful season, then Stearns is going to hear that. That's just that. And he needed to expose. I got to think of a better word. Needed to expose himself in that way. He needed to make himself vulnerable in that way because he had to change something. And when you need, you fully believe in that this needed a major, major shakeup after what happened last year.

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578.32 - 598.69 Boomer Esiason

Especially after you spent $769. You got to take chances. On Juan Soto. Right. To me, the spending of the money and the amount of money, that's an easy deal for a GM to do. You know, there was no way that the Yankees were going to ever, ever make a deal with Juan Soto. And they could have hid behind, you know, we're not giving a suite to our players.

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599.11 - 619.04 Boomer Esiason

They could have hid behind all that kind of crap. Yeah. The fact is they weren't going to pay anybody more than they're paying Aaron Judge. That's just all there is to it. And they knew that the Mets were going to go to – The degree that they did in order to sign him. So that, from a general manager standpoint, that's an easy signing, actually. Yeah. You got an owner that wants him.

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619.22 - 632.982 Boomer Esiason

You got all this money and you're going to give him a suite, whatever. And you're going to treat him like A-Rod was treated, like Barry Bonds was treated. That's fine. And that maybe was part of the problem in that locker room. You never know how people respond to crap like that.

633.35 - 653.434 Boomer Esiason

Yeah, I mean, it does sound like the Lindor-Soto thing was a thing, but we never really found out what the specific issues with Pete, if there were any specific issues with Pete, were. It could have been Nimmo, McNeil, and Pete. You know, you've got to turn over the roster eventually, and you've got to move on, especially if you feel like you're stuck.

653.667 - 675.355 Boomer Esiason

And, you know, they have two rookies on the team coming up this year, Nolan McClain and Carson Benj. And both are going to be asked to fill very big roles. Yeah, I mean, this is very similar to what happened with Brian Dable and Joe Shane in the first year that they took over the Giants. We've made this comparison before. There was unexpected success.

675.335 - 691.636 Boomer Esiason

And then they ended up keeping guys that maybe they wouldn't have kept if they didn't have that unexpected success. They come back the next year, everything blows up, and then eventually things go down the toilet. But David Sturge probably wanted to do all this stuff the offseason before, but the team ended up going to the NLCS.

691.656 - 708.918 Boomer Esiason

Yeah, out of the blue, so he kind of quasi-ran it back, but he added Juan Soto to the team. Yes, of course. Yeah, absolutely. And we all thought it was going to be a hell of a lot better than it was. Yeah, well, you know. Well, you know. You know, it's just you just never know about the makeup of a team.

Chapter 8: What are the implications of Pete Alonso leaving the Mets?

1231.181 - 1248.445 Boomer Esiason

Yeah. And that's what... I kind of feel like we're fighting it with them. Grok... Well, yeah, I mean, I don't think it's held me back too much. I mean, you hear me hacking. I actually didn't think you were still sick. No, I'm still hacking. Boomer knows every break I'm hacking. Spitting in the garbage pail. Yeah, it happens. You know. I'm trying, man. Battling through. You know me. Playing hurt.

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1248.745 - 1269.179 Boomer Esiason

That's right. Exactly. Leaving it all out there. Yes. All right, Jerry, what's happening this hour? We're brought to you by Chef IQ. Precision cooking, effortless results. ChefIQ.com. Yankees, Giants tonight. The baseball season opener. You talk about leaving it all out there. It's when you get into these retirement conversations and these retirement press conferences. So I did go find some.

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1269.259 - 1276.489 Boomer Esiason

I figured, why not? Yeah. Because when we played this one from Levante, David, last hour, you're like, ah, what am I supposed to do with this? So this is why we're doing what we're doing now.

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1276.749 - 1292.068 Unknown

Growing up where I grew up, it ain't easy. It ain't easy. But they found a way for me. And you don't understand that until you get older, until you have kids of your own. And the sacrifices they made for you.

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1294.225 - 1316.596 Boomer Esiason

So he was super emotional, as you can imagine, as his career comes to an end. It's a great message. It really is. It's a great message. Of course it is. These are all great messages. When the voice goes up, it's hard not to laugh. What else you got for us? And at some point, we're going to be there, too. Boomer just walked away and said, see ya. Yeah, he would crop dust us.

1316.616 - 1331.357 Boomer Esiason

And then head to an Uber. Well, I did find a few. I didn't necessarily remember this one, and this is the lesser of the bunch, but David Wright, when he announced his retirement. And lastly, my family and friends.

1339.367 - 1349.087 David Wright

Mom, dad, and of course, my beautiful wife, Molly, and girls. Olivia and Madison.

1349.568 - 1361.336 Boomer Esiason

At this point, he takes a towel to his face to try and clean himself up. Then you had Brett Favre, retirement number one of nine. I'd like to thank the Packers for giving me an opportunity as well.

1362.88 - 1365.205 Paul from Yonkers

I hope that every penny...

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