Matthew Holloway shares what it was like to lead SAP’s design thinking transformation, why designers need to get their house in order first, and the importance of purposeful rest. Highlights include: ⭐ What was it like working with Don Norman at Apple? ⭐ Does design maturity start with designers’ maturity? ⭐ Why can’t you impose design culture over night? ⭐ How can design leaders get a seat at the top table? ⭐ Do critics of Design Thinking have a legitimate axe to grind? ====== Who is Matthew Holloway? Matthew is an independent design consultant with over 25 years of experience scaling high performance product design teams for some of the world’s largest companies. As VP in the Office of CEO at SAP, Matthew worked with Hasso Plattner (the Co-Founder and Chairman) and Henning Kagermann (the then CEO) leading the global Design Thinking transformation of SAPs 60,000-person development, sales and consulting services divisions. After leaving SAP, Matthew took on the role of VP of Product Design & User Experience for Shutterfly. While there he led an aggressive programme of ongoing product improvements, as well as a strategic programme that resulted in an estimated $50 million dollars of annual savings. He has co-founded two companies, including Atlas Informatics - a machine learning based personal search technology - that counted Bill Gates, Nathan Myhrvold and Microsoft amongst its investors - and was acquired by Xinova in 2017. ====== Find Matthew here: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maholloway/ Website: https://matthewholloway.com/ Inside the Grateful Dead house: https://bit.ly/3yy2ZWH ====== Liked what you heard and want to hear more? Subscribe and support the show by leaving a review on Apple Podcasts (or wherever you listen). Follow us on our other social channels for more great Brave UX content! YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/TheSpaceInBetween/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-space-in-between/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thespaceinbetw__n/ ====== Hosted by Brendan Jarvis: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brendanjarvis/ Website: https://thespaceinbetween.co.nz/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/brendanjarvis/

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