The AI Pivot: Software Market Winners and Losers

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What were Salesforce's Q1 results and why do they matter?

Shirish Agarwal 0:00
Welcome to Breaking News to Trading Moves. Um, so today we are looking at some text concerning the AI pivot, specifically outlining the software market winners and losers right now.
Unknown 0:11
Yeah, it is a very grounded look at what is actually happening with enterprise budgets.
Shirish Agarwal 0:16
Right. No world changing predictions here, just a practical review of the recent headlines and who is benefiting. And to set the stage for you listening, we need to start with the facts from Salesforce's first quarter.
Jaime Hoerricks, PhD 0:27
Because that Q one report really lays out the baseline for the whole discussion.
Shirish Agarwal 0:31
Exactly. So Salesforce actually had a stronger than expected first quarter. Revenue came in at eleven point one three billion dollars, and uh adjusted earnings were three dollars and eighty eight cents per share.
Jaime Hoerricks, PhD 0:42
Which is a very solid beat. And their subscription and support revenue grew by fourteen percent.
Shirish Agarwal 0:46
Yeah. And they even added ninety eight new deals, with each of those being worth more than one million dollars in annual contract value. So I mean, looking at those numbers, it paints a picture of very solid execution.
Jaime Hoerricks, PhD 0:55
It really does.
Shirish Agarwal 0:56
But here is the question for you to consider. If those first quarter numbers were that strong, why are traders so entirely focused on what comes next?
Jaime Hoerricks, PhD 1:04
Well, that tension is the central narrative in the market right now. You look at a strong first quarter, but traders always trade on the future.
Shirish Agarwal 1:11
Always.
Jaime Hoerricks, PhD 1:12
So when we move from that Q one success to the Q two hesitation. We find this core debate happening regarding the mechanics of the software market itself.
Shirish Agarwal 1:22
Because the Q two guidance is where things got a bit muddy, right?
Jaime Hoerricks, PhD 1:25
Right. The Q two revenue guidance Salesforce provided is eleven point two seven billion dollars to eleven point three five billion dollars. And that forecast is just slightly below market expectations.
Shirish Agarwal 1:36
A very slight miss.
Jaime Hoerricks, PhD 1:38
Yeah, but that slight miss opens up a much broader conversation about the underlying business model moving forward.
Shirish Agarwal 1:44
Which brings us to the per seat dilemma.

Why are traders focused on Salesforce's Q2 guidance despite a strong Q1?

Shirish Agarwal 1:46
Think about it like this. Imagine buying an individual buffet ticket for every single employee in your company.
Jaime Hoerricks, PhD 1:53
Which gets expensive fast.
Shirish Agarwal 1:54
Right. But then you realize one highly efficient robot could just walk into the restaurant and grab all the food for everyone. You wouldn't need to buy those fifty individual tickets anymore.
Jaime Hoerricks, PhD 2:04
And that scenario is exactly what traditional software executives are losing sleep over right now.
Shirish Agarwal 2:08
So traders are asking, will AI agents help traditional software companies grow or will they reduce the need for those per seat software tools?
Jaime Hoerricks, PhD 2:18
Because for decades the software as a service model, or SAS, has been built entirely on headcount. You hire a new employee, you buy a new software license for them. It is a strict one to one relationship.
Shirish Agarwal 2:30
But now Salesforce wants Agent Force to be a major growth driver.
Jaime Hoerricks, PhD 2:33
Yeah.
Shirish Agarwal 2:34
They're trying to sell you that highly efficient robot.
Jaime Hoerricks, PhD 2:37
Exactly.
Shirish Agarwal 2:38
But if I'm a business owner and this robot can do the work of ten junior sales reps, I'm gonna cancel ten software licenses. So how does selling one robot make up for the lost revenue of ten human licenses?
Jaime Hoerricks, PhD 2:50
Well, the market is demanding proof that it actually can. Traders wanna see that selling this new automated capability will bring in more money or at least the same amount of money at a higher margin.
Shirish Agarwal 3:00
Higher margins would help offset the lost volume.
Jaime Hoerricks, PhD 3:02
Right. But they need proof that it offsets what the company loses if customers decide they no longer need as many individual human licenses. The market does not want to see the old SAS model weakened without a clear, measurable replacement for that revenue.
Shirish Agarwal 3:15
Because right now we are talking about replacing. A highly predictable revenue stream with something that is just entirely untested.
Jaime Hoerricks, PhD 3:23
Completely untested at scale, yes.
Shirish Agarwal 3:25
So if Salesforce and other traditional software companies are worried about selling fewer seats, the obvious question is, where is that software budget actually going? I mean the money does not just disappear.
Jaime Hoerricks, PhD 3:36
No, it doesn't. It is flowing directly into the physical hardware that makes these AI agents possible.

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