Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Chapter 2: What challenges do Iranian protesters face in communicating with the outside world?
There was no clashes that I saw on Thursday. Thursday was pretty much people. And the crowds got so big. I don't know. Besides what they did on Saturday, there was nothing they could have done. It was just so many people that the sheer number of people in the streets was unprecedented.
So then Friday, January 10th, what was your experience?
So Friday was the same, but with more presence from police forces, militia. We saw them, but they wouldn't engage. There was still tear gas, but I heard from other friends across town that they saw snipers on rooftops and they saw people falling. So there was some presence on Friday night, but it was still...
mainly people and the only I don't know what I saw the coverage on state TV they saw that people set fire to mosques and I'm not surprised by that when you use mosques to force people into a way of life you shouldn't be surprised if that's the first thing they set on fire But I heard other violent stories that I did not witness.
I don't know if normal, regular people are capable of that kind of violence, but I don't know. Like state governments have turned people into violent beings all the time. So, but I didn't witness any of the protesters violence. doing anything violent on Tuesday, Friday, or Saturday, for that matter.
And at that point, what's communication like? You couldn't communicate out of the country, but within the country you could?
So on Thursday night, I could even text outside of Iran up to I don't know if it was 8pm or 9pm like between 8 and 9pm everything just stopped working we couldn't even call each other internet went out that was Thursday night calls the only thing that we could do it was landline to landline landlines could call each other but that was it On Thursday night.
So there was really no way to organize at all.
Friday night happened organically. So then Saturday, people are back in the streets. What time did you go back out on Saturday? Describe what Saturday was like.
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Chapter 3: How did the protest movement in Iran begin after Christmas?
And really scary, like staring, even the day, Sunday after Saturday, I was in a car and And they were patrolling the streets after Saturday. And they came from behind, like a group of 50 of them at least. And I was so scared that I couldn't look away. And one of them was staring at me. And one of my friends held my hand and was like, look at me, don't look at them.
Like tried to get my attention away from them. just freakishly terrifying.
And you were telling me that as, as you were running, you, you could hear the bullets and you could see people fall. How close to, how close to you were the people who were going down? Like what kind of, um, I have no idea.
Right. Like I could, I could tell you, but I don't know how accurate it would be. Um,
It was shocking.
How did you finally get away? What got you to safety?
We weren't that far away. We got lucky because we got out late and we just ran back into the alley. And people opened doors, but we were close enough to get away.
To the place where you were staying? Yes.
We didn't even go that far on Saturday. And then it was quiet, like silence. Thursday and Friday, like at 1, 2 AM, people would still be in the streets and they were chanting from rooftops and windows and people would support even if they didn't leave the house. Saturday night after, so like for an hour, There was a lot of noise, a lot of light, a lot of commotion, and then silence.
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Chapter 4: What was the atmosphere like during the protests in Tehran?
What's the step from American airstrikes to the regime toppling. Cause from my own analysis and I don't know, I've never been to Iran. I don't know it as well as people who live there, but I don't see how American airstrikes bring about regime change. I, I, I fail to see what the connect, how, how that connects from one to the other. So what, so give me your take on that.
I, Okay. I'm hesitant to just give you my own opinion. I'll tell you what I think and what I think people of Iran think, most of them. I am anti-war. I do not like airstrikes and I do not like foreign interventions. They're always short-sighted and... I'm not motivated by what I think is needed on the ground. And I don't respect Donald Trump in any shape or form.
So my personal opinion is I don't trust what he says. I don't trust what he does. And if it was me, I wouldn't ask him for help. And I don't know how airstrikes can lead to regime change. I have no idea either. I'm just a normal person. I've never worked in politics. But inside, on the streets, I think people were as divided as the Iranian diaspora outside of Iran.
I think there are a lot of people that are so done. It's been so bad that they're like anything. If they can attack and kill Khamenei, for example, without us having to pay a lot, sure, why not? And there are people that are like, absolutely not. We do not want anybody to attack us. And I'm not saying that we should take everybody's opinion and take an average.
I don't believe in that kind of attitude when it comes to making these decisions. And I don't presume that I know what's best. So I'm just talking for myself. I'm just telling you what I think. And I think the best thing for Iran is for we have elites in prison. We have elites outside of Iran.
we can have a group of people that would help the people, help referendums and help polling to move from this regime to a more democratic one, if possible. Throughout 47 years, they have tried to kill and silence everybody inside of Iran. And they have done some assassination outside of Iran as well.
But I still think Iranians themselves have people that are capable of steering this country at least towards a better path. I don't think we need anyone, particularly those who are responsible for genociding other people.
Well, thank you so much for sharing your experience. Very much appreciate you. Thank you. I'm sure that was difficult and it's going to live with you forever.
Thank you.
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