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Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar

6/3/26: Larry Ellison Net Worth Skyrockets On Data Centers, ICE Protests Erupt At Delaney Hall

03 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 19.525 Sagar Enjeti

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19.505 - 23.755 Krystal Ball

You know, Steve Carell is a great singer. Can you tell you not to audition for The Office or something?

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23.835 - 29.969 Hasan Piker

I told him. Whoa. We were filming Anchorman. Clearly, I was the idiot. Thank God he didn't listen to me, right?

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29.989 - 36.422 Sagar Enjeti

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36.563 - 50.021 Tamara Judge

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50.322 - 57.111 Sagar Enjeti

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111.507 - 113.109 Sagar Enjeti

Hey guys, Sagar and Crystal here.

Chapter 2: How did Larry Ellison's net worth increase significantly?

587.618 - 607.281 Wala Blegay

And in each county, they have a big number. But what's even bigger is the federal contractors. And federal contractors don't have the same protection. So they don't get the notice. A lot of them are getting last-minute notice that the contracts have been ended. And they don't get all of these packages and all that that's required with a federal worker.

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607.762 - 633.37 Wala Blegay

So we have federal contractors who are just getting quick notice that they're going to be laid off and no money to really go. People are struggling. We did put out something about paying bills with a nonprofit because we fund a nonprofit. And we had to say no to a lot of people. So it is struggle right now. I think that it is something that many people are not used to. So they're trying to kind of

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633.35 - 654.751 Wala Blegay

go through it. So right now, a Hoyer endorsement 10 years ago would have sealed the deal. It would be over. Because I've been a council member for four years now in Prince George's County. And prior to that, I was a labor lawyer involved in the community. I had a show chat with the lawyer. I've run against a ticket before.

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655.291 - 668.468 Wala Blegay

And when I ran against a ticket that was normal times, people would just say, look, I know these people. I'm going to vote for whoever they recommend. Now we went door knocking yesterday. People are asking questions. They say we got to research candidates because the hurt is too much.

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668.969 - 676.121 Oren Cass

Yeah. And I was going to ask, I mean, so your opponent might say data centers, if people are struggling in PG County, they need jobs.

676.361 - 680.468 Wala Blegay

Data centers bring jobs. Data centers bring tax relief. We've been played before.

680.448 - 694.694 Oren Cass

Right. So tell us. And I was also curious when you're talking about this on the campaign trail, what you're hearing from people, because we're not being told by Kevin O'Leary and others that this is just a giant Chinese psychological operation on the American public.

695.035 - 715.208 Wala Blegay

China is making us mad at data centers. What are you hearing? Well, we're here. So we'll put it like this. This was before this election. People found out in Prince George's County, they have fast-track data centers. The prior administration had fast-track data centers. The council done, the county executive. When we came in, we didn't even know about the fast-tracking.

715.228 - 737.685 Wala Blegay

But what happened was all of a sudden the word got to the community that one of the data centers was at permitting. And we found people called the office demanding, screaming. We had an event where people took over. About almost 1,000 people showed up screaming and yelling. And they were like, why do we have this? We were already looking into the issue.

Chapter 3: What impact do data centers have on local communities?

1203.043 - 1205.247 Oren Cass

It means we get a free dinner every once in a while.

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1205.227 - 1228.551 Krystal Ball

No, no. There's no financial relationship. We are trying to support a network of policy professionals, journalists, lawyers, folks in government who are nerds. You remember it means you get an AMA for free or something. We should have something like that. But no, it means we're hopefully working together on improving the policy environment in this town. Got it.

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1228.531 - 1252.345 Oren Cass

Right. And now you are out with a new initiative on American citizenship. We can put this up on the screen. American Compass has this new Reclaiming American Citizenship initiative announced last night. And we might have to add this in post, but just announced. And Oren, we're going to ask you all about what you're trying to do on the right to build a sort of

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1252.325 - 1270.041 Oren Cass

to build a framework for how the right should be thinking about citizenship right now, especially as—let's put F1 on the screen. This is protests erupting outside of Delaney Hall in New Jersey. And, Ryan, you could probably tell us more about the left's mobilization here.

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1270.101 - 1281.471 Oren Cass

Obviously, this is over the treatment of people detained, which, again, it gets us back to this conversation about what it means to be a citizen and the like. But the left is outside of Delaney Hall. It doesn't seem to be going anywhere.

1281.552 - 1305.267 Krystal Ball

Right. There are hunger strikes going on inside over, on the one hand, over conditions, also access to different kinds of food, also over the protesting kind of the entire apparatus. We could actually roll F4 because Hassan Piker was there recently. Earlier in the show, we talked about Adam Hamowy. New Jersey congressional candidate, who just won last night.

1305.988 - 1315.89 Krystal Ball

Hamaoui and Hasan Piker went to the Delaney protests, and here's Piker reading out some of the demands from the hunger strikers and protesters inside.

1316.271 - 1332.617 Hasan Piker

Where are the Delaney Hall hunger strikers demanding? Many people have questions about what is happening inside of Delaney Hall. The detainees on Hunger Strike have stated that their demands are, number one, to meet with the governor. They want to meet with Governor Mickey Sherrill to go inside of the facility and meet the actual detainees.

1332.997 - 1351.18 Hasan Piker

Number two, they want the release of the medically vulnerable people. They demand the immediate release of those with serious medical conditions. Number three, release young and elderly detainees. They demand the immediate release of young and elderly people. And number four, freedom. We're not striking to demand better conditions and treatment.

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